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Old March 30th 10, 01:14 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval,rec.aviation.military
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Jim Wilkins wrote:
On Mar 30, 8:01 am, Jim Wilkins wrote:
On Mar 29, 12:16špm, Jack Linthicum
wrote:

...
The headquarters of the Federal Security Service, ex KGB, is above the
subway station (Lubyanka) in question.

Does the æÅÄÅÒÁÌØÎÁÑ ÓÌÕÖÂÁ ÂÅÚÏÐÁÓÎÏÓÔÉ still operate the notorious
prison there as well?

jsw


That didn't come out right. FSB, Federalnaya Sluzhba Bezopasnosti.

jsw



Nye punemayu po Ruski

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old March 30th 10, 01:19 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval,rec.aviation.military
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On Mar 30, 8:14*am, Dan wrote:
Jim Wilkins wrote:
On Mar 30, 8:01 am, Jim Wilkins wrote:
On Mar 29, 12:16špm, Jack Linthicum
wrote:


...
The headquarters of the Federal Security Service, ex KGB, is above the
subway station (Lubyanka) in question.
Does the æÅÄÅÒÁÌØÎÁÑ ÓÌÕÖÂÁ ÂÅÚÏÐÁÓÎÏÓÔÉ still operate the notorious
prison there as well?


jsw


That didn't come out right. FSB, Federalnaya Sluzhba Bezopasnosti.


jsw


* *Nye punemayu po Ruski

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


Federal Security Service, they do internal security and overseas
electronic espionage, sort of an FBI-NSA combo.
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Old March 30th 10, 01:20 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval,rec.aviation.military
Jim Wilkins
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Default Condolences to the Russians - Suicide bombers kill 37 in MoscowSubways

On Mar 30, 8:05*am, William Black wrote:
dott.Piergiorgio wrote:
...


mh.... what is the meaning of "illegals" here ?


Intelligence officers of one country inserted into another country using
false papers and expected to stay there for an extended period.
William Black


As opposed to cultural attaches and "passport control officials" who
had a valid reason to be here, worked in embassies and consulates and
had easy and secure access to diplomatic pouches. They were the higher
intelligence officials, station chiefs and sometimes agent handlers.
Much intelligence came from reading newspapers and intercepting radio
transmissions.

jsw
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Old March 30th 10, 03:14 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval,rec.aviation.military
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:23:00 -0500, Andrew Chaplin
wrote:

Arved Sandstrom wrote in
news:Bpjsn.538$Z6.368@edtnps82:

Ray OHara wrote:

the KGB routinely made monkey's uncles out of the western intel
agencies. as for the bombers, its the legasy of the Russians taking
over others countries.


KGB success in _obtaining_ intelligence, such as it was, depended
entirely on the willingness of useful traitors. First they were
ideological traitors, then, as people wised up, they became traitors
for money. But the KGB otherwise didn't exactly do anything "better"
than anyone else...they had some real buffoons as agent runners from
time to time. And I said "such as it was" because it transpires that
the ultimate recipient of all this hard-won intelligence, the Soviet
command structure, wasn't very good at interpreting it.

As for Soviet counterintelligence, and the difficulties that caused
Western agencies trying to operate in the fUSSR, well, that's simply
what happens when running a police state. Western counterintelligence
had to be considerably more sophisticated, and was.


An ambitious Soviet attach made several truly inept runs at my father in
the late 70s. His target likely was not my father (the senior researcher
in the history directorate of DG Exec Sec) but us three kids who were
then starting our careers in the CF. The KGB did not send their "A" team
to Ottawa.


I gues they never was the movie "The President's Analyst," eh?!?!?!
:-)

 




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