Where can you get empty caulking gun tubes...

Howdy Bart--
I also have some 1" i.d. silicone radiator hose in 3ft lengths, if you
haven't allready purchased the S.S. braided stuff-----You are using the
teflon lined for the fuel lines
& not the neoprene stuff aren't you?--Jerry

"Bart D. Hull" wrote:

to dispense vinylester - mill fiber mixture in a even and fast manner to
close out my top wing skins with no leaks in the tanks.

I have heard about using plastic bags with the end cut off but I'm going
to need to move alot of mixture in a short period.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

--
Bart D. Hull

Tempe,Arizona

Check http://www.inficad.com/~bdhull/engine.html for my Subaru Engine
Conversion
Check http://www.inficad.com/~bdhull/fuselage.html for Tango II I'm
building.

In article , "Bart D. Hull"
writes:


to dispense vinylester - mill fiber mixture in a even and fast manner to
close out my top wing skins with no leaks in the tanks.

I have heard about using plastic bags with the end cut off but I'm going
to need to move alot of mixture in a short period.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

--
Bart D. Hull

Tempe,Arizona



I used plastic cake decorating bags which worked great. Before starting, I
measured the adhesive quantities into plastic cups and set aside the flox to go
into each mix. Had everything ready before mixing the first batch.

I mixed one batch of just adhesive (No flox) and let my wife paint it on the
bond areas to wet them out while I mixed the adhesive/flox batchs. Mixed one
batch at a time, placed the mix into cake decorating bag and used snap-tie to
tie off the top. If you place the cake decorating bag into a tall plastic cup
and open it up it is very easy to pour/scrap the mix into it. I would pour the
mix into the bag, shake it down and tie of the top, Cut the end and lay down a
thick bead on top of the wet adhesive.

It took just the two of us, my wife and I to do the entire wing close out in 40
minutes. I believe this is easier and faster than trying to use the tubes.




Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

Bob,

Hadn't thought about how to fill the cartridges. (That's another helpers
job right?) I like the idea of the zip lock bags but would prefer the
consistency to be thicker than I can push easily. I always make quite
the mess with a "bakery bag" and end up pushing stuff out the top.

Thanks for the advice.

--
Bart D. Hull

Tempe,Arizona

Check http://www.inficad.com/~bdhull/engine.html for my Subaru Engine
Conversion
Check http://www.inficad.com/~bdhull/fuselage.html for Tango II I'm
building.


RobertR237 wrote:

In article , "Bart D. Hull"
writes:


to dispense vinylester - mill fiber mixture in a even and fast manner to
close out my top wing skins with no leaks in the tanks.

I have heard about using plastic bags with the end cut off but I'm going
to need to move alot of mixture in a short period.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

--
Bart D. Hull

Tempe,Arizona




I used plastic cake decorating bags which worked great. Before starting, I
measured the adhesive quantities into plastic cups and set aside the flox to go
into each mix. Had everything ready before mixing the first batch.

I mixed one batch of just adhesive (No flox) and let my wife paint it on the
bond areas to wet them out while I mixed the adhesive/flox batchs. Mixed one
batch at a time, placed the mix into cake decorating bag and used snap-tie to
tie off the top. If you place the cake decorating bag into a tall plastic cup
and open it up it is very easy to pour/scrap the mix into it. I would pour the
mix into the bag, shake it down and tie of the top, Cut the end and lay down a
thick bead on top of the wet adhesive.

It took just the two of us, my wife and I to do the entire wing close out in 40
minutes. I believe this is easier and faster than trying to use the tubes.




Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)


--
Bart D. Hull

Tempe,Arizona

Check http://www.inficad.com/~bdhull/engine.html for my Subaru Engine
Conversion
Check http://www.inficad.com/~bdhull/fuselage.html for Tango II I'm
building.

In article , Bart Hull
writes:


Bob,

Hadn't thought about how to fill the cartridges. (That's another helpers
job right?) I like the idea of the zip lock bags but would prefer the
consistency to be thicker than I can push easily. I always make quite
the mess with a "bakery bag" and end up pushing stuff out the top.

Thanks for the advice.



I used to have the same problem with the cake bags. I couldn't hold the top
tight enough while squeezing and some of the mix would always squeeze out. I
finally tried twisting the top and using some of those plastic zip-ties to
close it off. Works great and nothing comes out the top.

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

I have heard about using plastic bags with the end cut off but I'm going
to need to move alot of mixture in a short period.

---------------------------------------------

Dear Bart (and the Group),

If the 1-gallon Ziploc's aren't big enought (kinda hard to believe...) then
find a hardware store that caters to masons and buy yourself a couple of
'baker's bags.' Same idea as for decorating a cake but on an industrial scale;
used for accurately placing/dispensing mortor, filled epoxies, high-viscosity
urethanes, etc.

I believe you'll find the weak link in using caulk-gun tubes is filling the
things. With ziploc's and baker's bags you can do the mixing IN THE BAG, be
ready to place even fast-cure compounds as soon as the mix is uniform.

(Never used a baker's bag? Squeeze out all the air, hold it closed, give it an
easy spin... not too tight... then snip the corner according the size/shape of
bead you want to place. With a gallon-sized ziploc you can place about one
quart of mix; baker's bag can handle up to a full gallon. SOP for your
application, or applying 2-part sealant for riveted aluminum fuel tanks,
pontoon repairs, etc.)

-R.S.Hoover

Veeduber wrote:

(Never used a baker's bag? Squeeze out all the air, hold it closed, give it an
easy spin... not too tight... then snip the corner according the size/shape of
bead you want to place. With a gallon-sized ziploc you can place about one
quart of mix; baker's bag can handle up to a full gallon. SOP for your
application, or applying 2-part sealant for riveted aluminum fuel tanks,
pontoon repairs, etc.)

-R.S.Hoover

Question: This can't be used for epoxy layups, can it? I'm thinking of
what happens when that much expoxy starts to exotherm.

--
----Because I can----
http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org/
------------------------

In article ,
(Veeduber) writes:


Dear Bart (and the Group),

If the 1-gallon Ziploc's aren't big enought (kinda hard to believe...) then
find a hardware store that caters to masons and buy yourself a couple of
'baker's bags.' Same idea as for decorating a cake but on an industrial
scale;
used for accurately placing/dispensing mortor, filled epoxies, high-viscosity
urethanes, etc.

I believe you'll find the weak link in using caulk-gun tubes is filling the
things. With ziploc's and baker's bags you can do the mixing IN THE BAG, be
ready to place even fast-cure compounds as soon as the mix is uniform.

(Never used a baker's bag? Squeeze out all the air, hold it closed, give it
an
easy spin... not too tight... then snip the corner according the size/shape
of
bead you want to place. With a gallon-sized ziploc you can place about one
quart of mix; baker's bag can handle up to a full gallon. SOP for your
application, or applying 2-part sealant for riveted aluminum fuel tanks,
pontoon repairs, etc.)

-R.S.Hoover


I won't disagree with anything you have said but really would recommend using
multiple smaller bags instead. The problem with using large bags and large
batches is that the pot life of epoxy and adhesives is directly related to the
size of the batch. The large the quantity mixed, the faster the reaction and
the shorter the pot life.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

The problem with using large bags and large
batches is that the pot life of epoxy and adhesives is directly related to
the
size of the batch.

------------------------------------------------
I think you'll find it's easier to put a small batch into a large bag than the
other way 'round :-)

I've found it best to assume everyone knows at least as much as I do about
engines, planes and who shot John. Steaming under those rules, if someone
shows signs of not having used a particular tool or technique, the mere mention
of it should be enough for them to determine if it can be applied to their
particular need.

That is, after leading the horse to water the rest of the job is up to the
horse :-)

-R.S.Hoover

Veeduber wrote:


I have heard about using plastic bags with the end cut off but I'm going
to need to move alot of mixture in a short period.

---------------------------------------------

Dear Bart (and the Group),

If the 1-gallon Ziploc's aren't big enought (kinda hard to believe...) then
find a hardware store that caters to masons and buy yourself a couple of
'baker's bags.' Same idea as for decorating a cake but on an industrial scale;
used for accurately placing/dispensing mortor, filled epoxies, high-viscosity
urethanes, etc.

I believe you'll find the weak link in using caulk-gun tubes is filling the
things. With ziploc's and baker's bags you can do the mixing IN THE BAG, be
ready to place even fast-cure compounds as soon as the mix is uniform.


Or? Lay the mixed bags in the refrigerator while you mix some more.



(Never used a baker's bag? Squeeze out all the air, hold it closed, give it an
easy spin... not too tight... then snip the corner according the size/shape of
bead you want to place. With a gallon-sized ziploc you can place about one
quart of mix; baker's bag can handle up to a full gallon. SOP for your
application, or applying 2-part sealant for riveted aluminum fuel tanks,
pontoon repairs, etc.)

-R.S.Hoover

In article , Richard Lamb
writes:


I believe you'll find the weak link in using caulk-gun tubes is filling the
things. With ziploc's and baker's bags you can do the mixing IN THE BAG,
be
ready to place even fast-cure compounds as soon as the mix is uniform.


Or? Lay the mixed bags in the refrigerator while you mix some more.



I don't recommend mixing in the bag but the refrigerator idea has a lot of
merit if used for just short period to delay the reaction.

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)