Pilot's 2nd Fatal Accident

in article , Judah at
wrote on 5/19/04 6:39 PM:

"C J Campbell" wrote in
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It seems unfair to say that this is the pilot's second fatal accident
when his plane suffered a power failure and he was not even at the
controls when it crashed. The NTSB report of that crash says:
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All's fair during love, war, and sweeps week?

Except that it isn't just the media that seems to have jumped to
conclusions...

On Wed, 19 May 2004 03:05:55 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote:



Still, people have their own ways of dealing with pain. Jokes are one way.
Some would joke about their own death, if they could.

Agreed, after being a police officer for 13 years and a paramedic for
5, I have seen my share of death and mangled bodies. If I were to
allow my emotions to get the better of me, they would have put me in a
rubber room a long time ago. Humor is often used as a release of
emotions when death is involved. It is just another coping mechanisim
that the mind uses, thats all. It is not meant to minimize the
situation.


Scott D.

"SD" c o f l y i n g @ p c i s y s d o t n e t wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 May 2004 03:05:55 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote:



Still, people have their own ways of dealing with pain. Jokes are one
way.
Some would joke about their own death, if they could.

Agreed, after being a police officer for 13 years and a paramedic for
5, I have seen my share of death and mangled bodies. If I were to
allow my emotions to get the better of me, they would have put me in a
rubber room a long time ago. Humor is often used as a release of
emotions when death is involved. It is just another coping mechanisim
that the mind uses, thats all. It is not meant to minimize the
situation.

Listen to some of the military marching music about "what a hell of a way to
die"...

"C J Campbell" wrote in message

The other pilot involved also has a bunch of friends. He and his wife have
a
few planes that they fly regularly out of Vashon Island.

If I die (flying) and my obit reads "he and his wife have a few planes that
they fly regularly," my friends and family can at least say I lived a good
life. :

Another plane went down in Oregon and they found it yesterday. The news
described him as "an extremely experienced pilot; in fact, he was instrument
rated"

Been some cruddy and turbulent flying weather out here lately.

-c

Mysteries remain in fatal plane collision

BARRY GINTER THE OLYMPIAN
Investigators are expected to release a preliminary report today into
the fatal plane crash that occurred southeast of Tenino on Sunday, but
many questions about the accident remain unanswered.

Two Cessnas collided about 8:30 p.m. near Skookumchuck Road.

The pilot of one, Scott Christopher Devlin, 33, who was on his way to
Renton from his hometown of Camas, was killed in the crash.

The pilot of the other plane, Ghryn E. Loveness, 20, who was headed home
to Vashon Island after departing from Portland, survived after a crash
landing. There were no passengers in either airplane.

The report will raise the question of whether there was a third plane in
the area flying at a much lower height than the planes that collided,
said Tom Little, a National Transportation Safety Board air safety
investigator based in Seattle.

Initial reports indicated the planes crashed about 800 feet above the
ground, but radar indicated they collided at a height of about 3,500
feet, Little said.

Conflicting accounts

Other conflicting witness accounts must be addressed.

Some witnesses said one plane was doing stunts prior to the crash,
including sharp nosedives followed by swift ascents.

Jon Grayless was washing his barn when he saw a plane doing stunts
overhead. It was just a few seconds later that the planes collided, he said.

He did not see the collision, but he said he is almost certain it was
Devlin's plane that was doing the stunts.

But another witness, John Benedict, told investigators neither plane had
been doing stunts, according to his wife, Sheryl Benedict.

Devlin's family visited the crash site and indicated he was not a stunt
flyer and the plane was not equipped to do stunts, she said.

The report expected to be released today will not levy fault. A final
report is expected to take at least six months. Little will interview
other witnesses prior to its release, he said.

"There are so many different aspects of this, we have to investigate,"
Little said. "There's just lots of unknowns."

The airplanes are now in Seattle for examination, he said.

The Federal Aviation Administration also is conducting an investigation.
The results of the FAA's investigation will be turned over to the
National Transportation Safety Board.

Loveness' plane lost its engine after the collision, Little said. Pilots
don't normally survive that type of crash, he said.

"It's more amazing than amazing," Little said. Normally, a plane goes
into an uncontrollable spin when it sustains that amount of damage, he said.

"He did a heck of a job to get it on the ground."