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NTSB reports, where the FAA were the investigators, are notorious for their inaccuracies. The NTSB change the original facts quite often. The FAA inspectors are just as frustrated as you are when they point out the incorrect facts and the NTSB refuses to correct them. This is probably why NTSB reports cannot be used in trials. |
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"Colin Taylor" wrote in message
... [...] I am a few hours away from my commercial checkride, and then I want to do the instructor rating... Has this wrecked my career before I finished my training? Seems to me that the FAA enforcement action(s), if any, is what would affect your career. Even if you did cause the accident, I doubt that would have wrecked your career, and since the FAA held your instructor to blame, I don't see why it'd have any significant effect at all. |
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Is it likely to affect my career at all?
Nope....I have an accident on my record..two actually. One was my fault and one was NOT my fault. I'm flying for a living. As for the NTSB, they could care less about the facts. On my 2nd accident (the one that was my fault), they decided not to use pretty much anything that was in my report to them and the FAA's report...hell, there was even video and they still got it wrong. Oh well. But, when you interview for a job in flying, just be honest about it and things fall into place. -John *You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North American* |
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"Colin Taylor" wrote in message ... EDR wrote: NTSB reports, where the FAA were the investigators, are notorious for their inaccuracies. The NTSB change the original facts quite often. The FAA inspectors are just as frustrated as you are when they point out the incorrect facts and the NTSB refuses to correct them. This is probably why NTSB reports cannot be used in trials. Is it likely to affect my career at all? No and when you are asked if you ever had an accident the answer is no. The FAA considered the instructor to be PIC, that's why he had to have another checkride. |
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"EDR" wrote in message
... NTSB reports, where the FAA were the investigators, are notorious for their inaccuracies. The NTSB change the original facts quite often. The FAA inspectors are just as frustrated as you are when they point out the incorrect facts and the NTSB refuses to correct them. This is probably why NTSB reports cannot be used in trials. I'd assume NTSB reports would be inadmissible regardless of their reliability, because they're hearsay, not evidence. --Gary |
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EDR wrote
NTSB reports, where the FAA were the investigators, are notorious for their inaccuracies. The NTSB change the original facts quite often. The FAA inspectors are just as frustrated as you are when they point out the incorrect facts and the NTSB refuses to correct them. Over the years I've been involved in general aviation, I've had first-hand knowledge of quite a few accidents and incidents that eventually wound up in the NTSB database (and some that should have but did not). Reading the report after the fact, I find that inaccuracies are the norm. In fact, some of them read like a work of fiction. This is probably why NTSB reports cannot be used in trials. No, there are other reasons. Nonetheless, based on my experience I consider NTSB reports to be just slightly more accurate than news reports. Michael |
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Colin Taylor wrote:
If I was asked this question, I would say I was *in* an accident, but not the primary input at the controls at the time. Technically, I was PIC (for the logbook) cos I held a PPL at the time, although I was undergoing further instruction in that flight. If you held a PPL at the time I believe you and the instructor can both log PIC time during instruction, unless you are receiving instruction for an aircraft category/class/type that you have not yet been signed off for, then only the instructor is the PIC and can log it. As far as who is the REAL PIC in the event of an accident, I believe the FAA places a greater burden on the instructor since HE has been trained and licensed to insure the training is safe and risks are minimized. |
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Michael wrote:
Over the years I've been involved in general aviation, I've had first-hand knowledge of quite a few accidents and incidents that eventually wound up in the NTSB database (and some that should have but did not). Reading the report after the fact, I find that inaccuracies are the norm. In fact, some of them read like a work of fiction. Like the JFK report, for instance? |
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its not the NTSB reports that count.. it's what is in your pilot folder at
FAA OKC that matters.. if they did not require you to retake a ride with the FAA and sent you no letters to that effect.. or findings.. then it is a moot point.. keep a copy of all FAA correspondence press on.. fly safe.. and learn from it BT "Colin Taylor" wrote in message ... EDR wrote: NTSB reports, where the FAA were the investigators, are notorious for their inaccuracies. The NTSB change the original facts quite often. The FAA inspectors are just as frustrated as you are when they point out the incorrect facts and the NTSB refuses to correct them. This is probably why NTSB reports cannot be used in trials. Is it likely to affect my career at all? I am a few hours away from my commercial checkride, and then I want to do the instructor rating... Has this wrecked my career before I finished my training? Colin |
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"EDR" wrote in message ... This is probably why NTSB reports cannot be used in trials. NTSB reports are inadmissible in trials by statute. Otherwise lawyers would continually interfere with the investigation. |
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