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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net... "Cub Driver" wrote in message ... Not really. Yes, really. You're word-chopping. What's "word-chopping"? I can detain a burgler until the cops arrive. We're talking about military cops doing the detaining. What's a "burgler"? In my case, it would be the guy with a 0.45 inch hole in his forehead. In Dan's case, it might be a citizen's arrest. |
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On 17 Jan 2004 00:49:33 GMT, Clark stillnospam@me wrote:
I suggest you check into that further. "Arrest" may be a precise legal term but field application of "arrest" may not be. If anyone is "held" (prevented from moving at their disgression) then it can be succussfully argued that they have been arrested. The question to ask is "Am I free to leave or am I being detained?" If the answer is detained then you have been "arrested" and are due the protections of that status. Wrong. Using this rule - anybody has the authority to 'arrest.' This is why there is such a clear legal distinction between the authority to 'arrest' and the authority to 'detain.' "It's not American foreign policy, or the plight of the Palestinians, or America's longstanding support for Israel. A group of people with money and weaponry have simply decided that we, as a civilization, are unfit to live, and want, eventally, to exterminate us." 'Christian Century' magazine |
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 22:01:24 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote: "charles krin" wrote in message .. . Chuckle...Colin didn't say that...he said that usually a summons to appear before a federal magistrate was issued for minor problems...and if the problem wasn't minor, then the offender was held pending arrest by either the FBI or the US Marshals. Well, if they're being held, they've been arrested. That's what "arrest" means! Wrong. For instance - any arrest creates a permanent NCIC entry for the arrestee. An arrest also requires that the subject be charged with an offense. "It's not American foreign policy, or the plight of the Palestinians, or America's longstanding support for Israel. A group of people with money and weaponry have simply decided that we, as a civilization, are unfit to live, and want, eventally, to exterminate us." 'Christian Century' magazine |
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 10:07:29 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote: 'Arrest' is a specific legal status. A person detained by military authorities is _not_ under arrest. Tell that to the boys at gitmo. The people at Gitmo are 'civilian detainee' as per the Laws and Customs of War. "It's not American foreign policy, or the plight of the Palestinians, or America's longstanding support for Israel. A group of people with money and weaponry have simply decided that we, as a civilization, are unfit to live, and want, eventally, to exterminate us." 'Christian Century' magazine |
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 22:04:59 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote: "Colin Campbell" (remove underscore) wrote in message ... 'Arrest' is a specific legal status. A person detained by military authorities is _not_ under arrest. And even in detaining somebody there are specific legal rules that must be followed - or else the detention turns into the felony of 'false arrest.' You are mistaken. I suggest you look up the word "arrest". Why should I? I had this all explained to me in a class taught by a JAG lawyer. "It's not American foreign policy, or the plight of the Palestinians, or America's longstanding support for Israel. A group of people with money and weaponry have simply decided that we, as a civilization, are unfit to live, and want, eventally, to exterminate us." 'Christian Century' magazine |
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"Colin Campbell" (remove underscore) wrote in message ... On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 10:07:29 -0800, "Tarver Engineering" wrote: 'Arrest' is a specific legal status. A person detained by military authorities is _not_ under arrest. Tell that to the boys at gitmo. The people at Gitmo are 'civilian detainee' as per the Laws and Customs of War. So in your opinion, the boys at gitmo are not under arrest? |
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"Colin Campbell" (remove underscore) wrote in message ... Wrong. Using this rule - anybody has the authority to 'arrest.' This is why there is such a clear legal distinction between the authority to 'arrest' and the authority to 'detain.' Look up the damn word, man. You're making a fool of yourself. |
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"Colin Campbell" (remove underscore) wrote in message ... Wrong. For instance - any arrest creates a permanent NCIC entry for the arrestee. An arrest also requires that the subject be charged with an offense. Look up the damn word. |
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"Colin Campbell" (remove underscore) wrote in message ... Why should I? So that you might gain an understanding of what it means. |
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:56:46 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote: The people at Gitmo are 'civilian detainee' as per the Laws and Customs of War. So in your opinion, the boys at gitmo are not under arrest? They're the luckiest *******s this side of the International Date Line. THey should be bench-pressing six feet of pig ****. |
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