Has anyone played with th e Airmap 1000

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:29:31 -0700 "Tom" wrote:


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I was looking at different GPS at different sites and I was amazed at
how
much cheaper the marine units were. It really makes me wonder why the
aviation handhelds are soo much more.

You're new to this "flying thing", eh? :-)

ANYTHING that says "Aviation" on it costs twice as much -- or more. This
includes everything, from electronics to Chrysler alternators... :-(
--
...and seat belts.

I remember several years ago our guys needing to replace a seat belt; they
could have bought a set at AutoZone (or who ever carried such things at they
time) for $8.00, but they had to use "Aircraft" belts, that cost like $68.

Came to find out they were the EXACT SAME BELTS...same links, same material,
virtually the same mounts.



It's bad but I guess if the market will bear those prices then they'll keep
charging them. And we'll keep paying and so on and on.... :\

Much more regulatory process involved too though, correct?

Next time you're at your favorite home improvement check out all the labels
stuck on a ladder. It's crazy and really jacks up the price of a ladder.


R. Hubbell

"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:29:31 -0700 "Tom" wrote:


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:Iq2Cb.507016$Tr4.1396193@attbi_s03...
I was looking at different GPS at different sites and I was amazed
at
how
much cheaper the marine units were. It really makes me wonder why
the
aviation handhelds are soo much more.

You're new to this "flying thing", eh? :-)

ANYTHING that says "Aviation" on it costs twice as much -- or more.
This
includes everything, from electronics to Chrysler alternators... :-(
--
...and seat belts.

I remember several years ago our guys needing to replace a seat belt;
they
could have bought a set at AutoZone (or who ever carried such things at
they
time) for $8.00, but they had to use "Aircraft" belts, that cost like
$68.

Came to find out they were the EXACT SAME BELTS...same links, same
material,
virtually the same mounts.



It's bad but I guess if the market will bear those prices then they'll
keep
charging them. And we'll keep paying and so on and on.... :\

Much more regulatory process involved too though, correct?

Yup...it wasn't the mechanics fault, it was required by FAA (TSO'ed or
somthing).

Next time you're at your favorite home improvement check out all the
labels
stuck on a ladder. It's crazy and really jacks up the price of a ladder.

Yep...the price of a "risk -free", idiot-proof world.

R.,

Much more regulatory process involved too though, correct?


not for handheld GPS. In that case, it's more a monopoly of the
aviation data provider, aka Jeppesen.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:eRFBb.299622$Dw6.997928@attbi_s02...

Yes, they're a bit pricey. But for only $300 (remember, this is "Aviation
Money" -- so $300 is "only" more than the Garmin 295, you get twice the
GPS -- literally.


Jay,
I checked all handheld/portable GPS options at AOPA expo this year
and was quite impressed with the AvMap. It certainly has the
brightest color display and is quite superior to the Garmin 295. For
B&W display, the Lowrance Airmap 1000 (when it is available) looked
like the best of the bunch. Aside from the initial cost of the unit,
what about the cost of database update? My recollection of newsgroup
search on Lowrance vs. Garmin is that it costs significantly more for
the Lowrance. How much does it cost to update AvMap database?

Hlongworth,

My recollection of newsgroup
search on Lowrance vs. Garmin is that it costs significantly more for
the Lowrance.


35 $ for a Lowrance one-time update, 300 for a subscription, IIRC.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

the Lowrance. How much does it cost to update AvMap database?

From $99 to $149, depending on vendor.

Pricey, but in this case you really do get what you pay for. (Remember,
this thing holds ALL the instrument approaches, not just airport
information...)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:58:02 -0800, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:


I was looking at this unit on the web and it looks great. If anyone has had any
hands on with this it would be interesting to hear first impressions or even
second or third.

No, but it only took one look at the cover story in "Flying" magazine
to convince me I want one in the Debonair...well actually it's a
system with two displays.

Unfortunately in that deb that would mean a new panel and time I'd get
done the panel would cost more than the whole airplane is worth...
But if I could fly it for at least another 10 years?
Let's see...The complete 1000 system with all the goodies, get the age
wrinkles ironed out, new tip tanks, a new paint job, a good corosion
proofing, AND a new interior.... Oh, and a major as the engine is
getting close to run out... I think we passed a $100,000 a ways back.
New might be cheaper?
OTOH I'd still have my baby.

I'm still thinking about the Blue Mountain system for the G-III.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?)
www.rogerhalstead.com
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R. Hubbell