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Newbie commercial school question
This summer I will fulfill a lifelong dream to learn to fly sailplanes.
I would like to concentrate the first phase of my schooling into a concentrated 7 or 10 day period. I'd like to find a commercial flight school in an area of stable and predictable weather. After browsing this list, I also wonder if training would be more intensive in a powered glider. Can anyone comment on the above? Recommend a specific program, school, or teacher? Am I off base on the powered option? If I am on base, recommend a school so equipped? I live in NY but can travel anywhere in US for this plan. Thanks. |
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I did my commercial add on in 4 days in Marfa, TX with Burt Compton. I
studied a LOT ahead of time and had been doing a lot of power flying through the winter. I have no motorglider experience but it may make it easier for you to learn landings by being able to get lots of circuits in without taking numerous tows. Auto or Winch launches can accomplish the same goal. Saltfly wrote: This summer I will fulfill a lifelong dream to learn to fly sailplanes. I would like to concentrate the first phase of my schooling into a concentrated 7 or 10 day period. I'd like to find a commercial flight school in an area of stable and predictable weather. After browsing this list, I also wonder if training would be more intensive in a powered glider. Can anyone comment on the above? Recommend a specific program, school, or teacher? Am I off base on the powered option? If I am on base, recommend a school so equipped? I live in NY but can travel anywhere in US for this plan. Thanks. |
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I'll immodestly recommend Soar Minden. We have about a dozen students
a year (or more) come from all over the world to do exactly what you propose: spend a week of concentrated flying and end up with a glider rating. Our weather is predictable and you could probably count on flying the whole time you're here. If you come in March or April you'll probably fly in wave, possibly even leave with an altitude diamond. If you come in May or June you'll be flying in great thermal conditions, probably including some nice cross country flying and maybe leaving with a Silver badge. Take a look at our web site www.soarminden.com for specifics on what we offer, or give me a call at 1 800 345 7627. Fred |
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is this an "add-on" or brand new to flying.
The recommendations for Marfa TX and Minden NV are good to go, but may I also recommend Carocole Soaring in Cal City CA, just north of Edwards AFB and east of Tehachipe. BT "Saltfly" wrote in message oups.com... This summer I will fulfill a lifelong dream to learn to fly sailplanes. I would like to concentrate the first phase of my schooling into a concentrated 7 or 10 day period. I'd like to find a commercial flight school in an area of stable and predictable weather. After browsing this list, I also wonder if training would be more intensive in a powered glider. Can anyone comment on the above? Recommend a specific program, school, or teacher? Am I off base on the powered option? If I am on base, recommend a school so equipped? I live in NY but can travel anywhere in US for this plan. Thanks. |
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Saltfly wrote: This summer I will fulfill a lifelong dream to learn to fly sailplanes. I would like to concentrate the first phase of my schooling into a concentrated 7 or 10 day period. I'd like to find a commercial flight school in an area of stable and predictable weather. After browsing this list, I also wonder if training would be more intensive in a powered glider. Can anyone comment on the above? Recommend a specific program, school, or teacher? Am I off base on the powered option? If I am on base, recommend a school so equipped? I live in NY but can travel anywhere in US for this plan. Thanks. Consider Seminole Lake Gliderport in Florida (very close to Orlando)...Good weather, good equipment, excellent teachers and owners........ |
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If you can wait until the weather settles down (say June) I'd highly
recommend Ridge Soaring in Pennsylvania. They have a couple of "full immersion" courses and will tailor them to your needs/ability. Tom's reputation is unsurpassed and the other instructors are also of the highest caliber. Read as much as possible before hand and plan on reading more when you're there. There's a bunkhouse at the field (included in the cost of the course when I went a few years ago) and plenty of places to eat at nearby State College. Its a wonderful place to soar. Mike ASW 15 |
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"Mike" wrote:
If you can wait until the weather settles down (say June) I'd highly recommend Ridge Soaring in Pennsylvania. They have a couple of "full immersion" courses and will tailor them to your needs/ability. Tom's reputation is unsurpassed and the other instructors are also of the highest caliber. I don't like to make negative comments, but Ridge Soaring is the only place I've ever flown where the instructor did not know the tow signals. He thought "rock the wings" was the signal for the towplane to "slow down." We had to go find the SSA poster to convince him otherwise. Perhaps I found the one thing he didn't know well, or the one bad apple instructor, but ... The other thing that bothered me was that he was selected to give me a ridge checkout, but he'd just been hired and had only made one other ridge flight. He didn't know the area, didn't know how to fly ridges and the one piece of wisdom he seemed to be able to impart from his own checkout flight was that he'd been told that if you got below ridge height you should land. I know you have to start somewhere, but I didn't think he was a good choice to give a ridge checkout and I was not instilled with great confidence from this experience. It's a fantastic place to do some ridge flying, but I'd lean towards somewhere else for training, or at least get a recommendation from someone who knows the specific instructor you will be flying with. Marfa, Minden and Caracole Soaring all have good reps, and my experience with the latter two has been excellent (never been to Marfa). |
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Take a look at Great Western Soaring's website.
http://www.greatwesternsoaring.com/ It may take a while to read the whole site, but it's worth it. They've got pictures of the actual terrain you'll be flying. They log weather conditions also, so you can see what lift was available yesterday, last month, or last year. The school is located at the foothills of the San Gabriel mountains in Southern California, You get every kind of lift. Yesterday we were up for hours in thermal, sheer, wave & ridge. I practiced ridge for 30 minutes. Later, we burned off excess altitude doing spin & slip training. The sleek DG-500 trainers have honest 40-1 LD & retractable gear. They are nice handling & roomy. After training in these, you can transition to single-place glass much more easily than from an old Blanik or 2-33. The instructors are expert pilots; positive & friendly.You could solo in a week to ten days, although you may not expect to. I understand they do training camps for teenagers & often solo them after a week. I'm very glad I chose Great Western. It's certainly helped me accomplish the dream! Best, Jim Hultman "Saltfly" wrote in message oups.com... This summer I will fulfill a lifelong dream to learn to fly sailplanes. I would like to concentrate the first phase of my schooling into a concentrated 7 or 10 day period. I'd like to find a commercial flight school in an area of stable and predictable weather. After browsing this list, I also wonder if training would be more intensive in a powered glider. Can anyone comment on the above? Recommend a specific program, school, or teacher? Am I off base on the powered option? If I am on base, recommend a school so equipped? I live in NY but can travel anywhere in US for this plan. Thanks. |
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Hi there,
Re. motorglider for training, my club had a Super Dimona for such purposes. It worked pretty well for pattern flying and early training phase flying. I don't know of a commercial operation with such a plane but one may exist. However I don't think you need to go that route. A good commercial operation will drag your butt up as much as you want. I got to solo level then decided to step up the pace and went commercial for my PPG. I went to Soar Minden for two weeks in August, 2003. It was an amazing experience but mentally grueling flying 12-13 days straight. I did a lot of patten flying, got my solo time, silver altitude, checked out on O2, passed my checkride and exam and left a licenced pilot. They were very thorough and I spent more than I planned but did not care. I also prepared for the exam before I arrived and studied an hour or two every night I was out there. Get the FAR/AIM, Glider Flying Manual,and a test review book. I read an old copy of the Joy of Soaring and a book by Piggot as well. Good luck in your search, Adam Saltfly wrote: This summer I will fulfill a lifelong dream to learn to fly sailplanes. I would like to concentrate the first phase of my schooling into a concentrated 7 or 10 day period. I'd like to find a commercial flight school in an area of stable and predictable weather. After browsing this list, I also wonder if training would be more intensive in a powered glider. Can anyone comment on the above? Recommend a specific program, school, or teacher? Am I off base on the powered option? If I am on base, recommend a school so equipped? I live in NY but can travel anywhere in US for this plan. Thanks. |
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I'd recommend learning on aerotow. If you do your checkride on aerotow,
it's only a CFIG endorsement to fly MG's, but you'd need a second checkride if you do MG's first. Also, unless you're going to have access to a MG after training, I don't see how a MG checkride will do you much good since most FBO's are aerotow. As to locations, I'd second Soar Minden. I did my training there in 1995 and loved it. While the wx isn't totally reliable (how about a snow flurry in July one year?), I suspect that it is one of the most reliable sites in the nation. And the views are absolutely stunning when you get high enough to see Lake Tahoe -- which is most days after April. Wishing you luck. Martin |
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