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Old July 6th 07, 06:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting
Al G[_2_]
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Default FWIW, Moller Again ?



GROUND-EFFECT VEHICLE PRODUCTION LAUNCHED
Moller International has completed tooling for its M200G volantor, a small,
"Jetson-like" two-passenger vehicle designed to take-off and land
vertically. The M200G is saucer-shaped, about the size of a small
automobile, and is intended for operation continuously about 10 feet above
ground level. "It's the ultimate off-road vehicle, able to travel over any
surface," claimed Dr. Paul Moller, CEO. He further claimed the M200G could
speed up to 50 mph over a variety of terrain because the electronics keep
the craft stabilized at no more than 10 feet altitude, where extra lift is
obtained from operating near the ground. For more information, visit
www.Moller.com.


Al G


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Old July 6th 07, 06:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default FWIW, Moller Again ?

Al G wrote:
GROUND-EFFECT VEHICLE PRODUCTION LAUNCHED
Moller International has completed tooling for its M200G volantor, a
small, "Jetson-like" two-passenger vehicle designed to take-off and
land vertically. The M200G is saucer-shaped, about the size of a small
automobile, and is intended for operation continuously about 10 feet
above ground level. "It's the ultimate off-road vehicle, able to
travel over any surface," claimed Dr. Paul Moller, CEO. He further
claimed the M200G could speed up to 50 mph over a variety of terrain
because the electronics keep the craft stabilized at no more than 10
feet altitude, where extra lift is obtained from operating near the
ground. For more information, visit www.Moller.com.


Al G


From the Website... And yet he still hasn't been able to produce a video
without it being attached to a crain.
The M200X volantor has completed over two hundred successful test flights.
It has been extensively hard-tooled so that derivatives not requiring FAA
certification are now available.



Recreational and utilitarian models include:

a.. Demonstrators for use over one’s own property (M200D)

b.. Versions that operate within ground effect--approximately 10 feet AGL
(M200G)

c.. Experimental or homebuilt variants (M200E)

d.. Rescue configuration capable of docking with skyscrapers (Firefly 3)

Depending on the number of orders received the prices could vary between
$125,000 for the M200G to $450,000 for the Firefly 3. Information on
potential military and/or para-military applications of the M200R and M200M
are welcome.


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Old July 6th 07, 06:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default FWIW, Moller Again ?

In a previous article, "Al G" said:
GROUND-EFFECT VEHICLE PRODUCTION LAUNCHED
Moller International has completed tooling for its M200G volantor, a small,
"Jetson-like" two-passenger vehicle designed to take-off and land
vertically. The M200G is saucer-shaped, about the size of a small
automobile, and is intended for operation continuously about 10 feet above
ground level. "It's the ultimate off-road vehicle, able to travel over any
surface," claimed Dr. Paul Moller, CEO. He further claimed the M200G could
speed up to 50 mph over a variety of terrain because the electronics keep
the craft stabilized at no more than 10 feet altitude, where extra lift is
obtained from operating near the ground. For more information, visit
www.Moller.com.


Funny how the 1953 Avro Aircar was a saucer-shaped aircraft intended to
fly at altitude but they couldn't get it out of ground effect. History
repeats itself?


--
Paul Tomblin http://blog.xcski.com/
Software planning seems to be based on denying plausibility.
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Old July 6th 07, 06:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default FWIW, Moller Again ?

In rec.aviation.piloting Al G wrote:


GROUND-EFFECT VEHICLE PRODUCTION LAUNCHED
Moller International has completed tooling for its M200G volantor, a small,
"Jetson-like" two-passenger vehicle designed to take-off and land
vertically. The M200G is saucer-shaped, about the size of a small
automobile, and is intended for operation continuously about 10 feet above
ground level. "It's the ultimate off-road vehicle, able to travel over any
surface," claimed Dr. Paul Moller, CEO. He further claimed the M200G could
speed up to 50 mph over a variety of terrain because the electronics keep
the craft stabilized at no more than 10 feet altitude, where extra lift is
obtained from operating near the ground. For more information, visit
www.Moller.com.


I'll bet it's a real thrill going over hills, especially on the downhill
side.

--
Jim Pennino

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Old July 6th 07, 07:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default FWIW, Moller Again ?


"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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In a previous article, "Al G" said:
GROUND-EFFECT VEHICLE PRODUCTION LAUNCHED
www.Moller.com.


Funny how the 1953 Avro Aircar was a saucer-shaped aircraft intended to
fly at altitude but they couldn't get it out of ground effect. History
repeats itself?


Except Avro was trying to get OUT of ground effect; Moller is trying to stay
IN it.
--
Matt Barrow
Performance Homes, LLC.
Cheyenne, WY


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Old July 6th 07, 07:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default FWIW, Moller Again ?

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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In a previous article, "Al G" said:
GROUND-EFFECT VEHICLE PRODUCTION LAUNCHED
www.Moller.com.


Funny how the 1953 Avro Aircar was a saucer-shaped aircraft intended to
fly at altitude but they couldn't get it out of ground effect. History
repeats itself?


Except Avro was trying to get OUT of ground effect; Moller is trying to
stay IN it.



Maybe he's simply trying to turn a failure into opportunity.


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Old July 6th 07, 07:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default FWIW, Moller Again ?

On Jul 6, 11:25 am, wrote:
In rec.aviation.piloting Al G wrote:

GROUND-EFFECT VEHICLE PRODUCTION LAUNCHED
Moller International has completed tooling for its M200G volantor, a small,
"Jetson-like" two-passenger vehicle designed to take-off and land
vertically. The M200G is saucer-shaped, about the size of a small
automobile, and is intended for operation continuously about 10 feet above
ground level. "It's the ultimate off-road vehicle, able to travel over any
surface," claimed Dr. Paul Moller, CEO. He further claimed the M200G could
speed up to 50 mph over a variety of terrain because the electronics keep
the craft stabilized at no more than 10 feet altitude, where extra lift is
obtained from operating near the ground. For more information, visit
www.Moller.com.


I'll bet it's a real thrill going over hills, especially on the downhill
side.

--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.


That's called flying in "hill effect", or maybe its "slope
soaring"... :-)

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Old July 6th 07, 07:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default FWIW, Moller Again ?

In a previous article, "Matt Barrow" said:
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...
In a previous article, "Al G" said:
GROUND-EFFECT VEHICLE PRODUCTION LAUNCHED
www.Moller.com.


Funny how the 1953 Avro Aircar was a saucer-shaped aircraft intended to
fly at altitude but they couldn't get it out of ground effect. History
repeats itself?


Except Avro was trying to get OUT of ground effect; Moller is trying to stay
IN it.


No, Moller used to say his things were going to fly. This "only in ground
effect" thing is recent, probably after he realized he couldn't get out of
ground effect.

The ironic thing is that he was at Avro when they were working on the
Aircar.



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censorship that we insist on having unaccountable private parties
to do it instead. -- Bill Cole
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Old July 6th 07, 07:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow[_4_]
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Default FWIW, Moller Again ?


"El Maximo" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...

"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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In a previous article, "Al G" said:
GROUND-EFFECT VEHICLE PRODUCTION LAUNCHED
www.Moller.com.

Funny how the 1953 Avro Aircar was a saucer-shaped aircraft intended to
fly at altitude but they couldn't get it out of ground effect. History
repeats itself?


Except Avro was trying to get OUT of ground effect; Moller is trying to
stay IN it.



Maybe he's simply trying to turn a failure into opportunity.


One man's trash is another man's treasure? :~)


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Old July 6th 07, 07:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow[_4_]
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Default FWIW, Moller Again ?


"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...
In a previous article, "Matt Barrow" said:
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...
In a previous article, "Al G" said:
GROUND-EFFECT VEHICLE PRODUCTION LAUNCHED
www.Moller.com.

Funny how the 1953 Avro Aircar was a saucer-shaped aircraft intended to
fly at altitude but they couldn't get it out of ground effect. History
repeats itself?


Except Avro was trying to get OUT of ground effect; Moller is trying to
stay
IN it.


No, Moller used to say his things were going to fly. This "only in ground
effect" thing is recent, probably after he realized he couldn't get out of
ground effect.

The ironic thing is that he was at Avro when they were working on the
Aircar.

I keep conjuring up visions of the Harrier.

Even if Moller could pull it off, as mentioned, his FAA certification
headaches would be, well, deadly.


 




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