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Old October 8th 03, 06:52 PM
Morgans
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"Wright1902Glider" wrote in message
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That's funny. The front skids, landing skids, lower tail support, ribs,

and hip
cradle of my Wright machine are all made of ash.

Harry


Because of ash's good bendability, I presume.

Are the skids laminated?
--
Jim in NC


  #12  
Old November 4th 03, 04:40 PM
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"Veeduber" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
Fellow came by the shop to borrow a Dutch Oven. He works at one of the

local
colleges and is a Boat Person rather than a Plane Person. Boat People

usually
takes their kitchen with him when they travel but he's taking a bunch of
college kids over to Death Valley to count pup fish and the best the

college
could do for chow and equipment was a couple of Sierra cups and some

outdated
MRE's.

I've known this guy maybe twenty years, figure it's safe to loan him a

Dutch
Oven. He's built a couple of boats, knows about wood. I helped him rig

an
aluminum mast, 'way back when sometime. He knows I fiddle with airplanes

but
thought they were always aluminum.

"I thought you only worked in aluminum,' he said. We were out behind the

shop.
Perplexed look on his face, inspecting an aileron that seemed to be

growing
plumes of wood shavings where the ribs attached to the spar. I found the

Dutch
Oven, not too rusty considering it hadn't been used in a year or more.

Took it
in the shop to clean it up. He wasn't leaving til the next day; there

would be
time to season the oven before he left.

I've been making some tail feathers. One set is all corners, simple and

quick
to build. The other is all curves. I had a bundle of pine strips, one

inch
wide but barely an eighth of an inch thick. When he arrived I'd been

scarfing
them into ten-foot strips. Being a Boat Person he knows about scarfing.

"What slope is that?"

I didn't know. I finished cleaning up the Dutch Oven, went in the house

for
some bacon grease, rubbed it down good. You can use vegetable oil if you

want.
When I came back out to the shop he'd found a yo-yo and was measuring the
scarfs.

"That's about sixteen to one," he sounded surprised. Boat people tend to

use
steep scarfs; eight to one; even six

Best I could do was shrug. I honestly had no idea what the slope was,

told him
so. For the second time.

"How can you be sure they'll match if you don't even know what slope

you're
using?"

He sounded kind of stern. I just looked at him. College teacher. Boat
person. He'd figure it out. I waited, kept looking at him.

"Oh!" You could almost see the light bulb go on over his head.

(So long as you cut all of your scarfs using the same set-up, they'll

match.
It doesn't really matter what the angle is.)

The big disk sander was still set up for scarfing. I'd clamped a piece of

2x4
to the table, cocked it around so it formed a very flat angle relative to

the
disk then simply shoved the strips into the gap like sharpening a pencil.

Full
depth, the disk cut a taper about two inches long. The strips are about a
sixty-fourth shy of an eighth, which was how the set-up came out. I

found
some scrap, squared them on the bandsaw, let him scarf them then put them
together to see how they fit. Nice.

Scarf joint is a special case of end-grain gluing. For full strength

across
the joint you need a lot of surface which dictates a nice flat angle.
Producing that angle by sanding presents you with something of a problem..

You
need to get the sanding residue out of the fibers. I coat it with glue

then
scrape it off with a single edged razor blade, then apply fresh glue.

Seems to
work okay, which is good because most of the strips had three splices -

four
pieces of wood. That's the reality of Building On The Cheap, using

whatever
wood is locally available.

I showed him a couple that were already glued, showing off a bit by tying

one
in a knot. They were glued with an epoxy because it's less viscous than

most
of my other glues and epoxy doesn't need a lot of pressure to make a good
joint. To turn short strips into long ones, I taped them to a work bench.
There was a small strip of waxed paper under the glued area but the

alignment
was strictly by eye, sighting down the strip until they aligned then

holding it
in place by taping it to the bench. This leaves the scarf free to lift

up,
apply the glue and check the wet-out. Then another piece of waxed paper

went
over the top followed by a steel plate to provide some weight. Clean-up

is
with a razor after which one edge gets trued up. They aren't perfectly
straight but for making bows, they don't have to be. All you need is one

edge
that is reasonably true. That will be the down-edge when I laminate the

curve,
which should take about fourteen of the strips and about two dozen

sewer-pipe
clamps, plus a couple of real clamps to secure the laminated bow to the

blocks
that make up the curves. Once the bow is cured it will be carved to its

final
shape. Any irregularities in the strips will vanish during the carving.

Out back of the shop I dug around, found the trivet and some fire irons,

showed
him a Squaw Wood kit and explained how to use it, loaned him a pair of

heavy
leather gloves. He kept looking at the aileron with its little tufts of

wood
shavings fluttering in the breeze.

I explained that they were errors. Those particular blocks had shown a

gap
when fitted in place. I didn't want to make up new blocks so I installed

them
square then filled the gap with wood shavings coated with glue on both

sides.
Once the glue is cured I'll sand off the curls. I also pointed out an

error he
hadn't seen, where the disk sander got away from me and gouged a rib.

"How did you keep it in place?" he asked, which was a good question. The

rib
is curved and less than a quarter of an inch thick.

"Clothes pins. Put some waxed paper over the glue." If I couldn't grab

it
with clothes pins I'd of had to use rubber bands or something like that.

Once
the glue had cured I sanded the patch smooth.

"Does it effect the strength?"

"Not there. This all gets covered with cloth; it has to be smooth. Worse

case
load is a few pounds per inch of rib."

He had his nose right down into the thing now looking at the filleted

joints
and the scarfed doublers. And the struts.

"Are those what I think they are?" he pointed to a strut.

"Are you thinking bamboo?"

"Actually, I was thinking shish-ka-bob."

"You sound like my wife. No, those are Aviation Certified bamboo struts."

He gave me a look. I gave him a look. We both grinned.

All loaded up, he started his engine then ran the window down. "I hadn't
really thought about wood in the way you're using it there. What's the
trade-off compared to using aluiminum?" We've talked airplanes before.

He's
dead set against composites, having developed a major reaction to resin.

And
he's not much of a hand with metal. But he likes wood.

"Go play with your pup fish," I told him. "Give me a call when you get

back."
He didn't look too happy with that. "It's not a trivial subject. The

biggest
airplane ever built was made out of wood."

"The Spruce Goose! Up in Long Beach, by the Queen Mary." He'd just

remembered
it was made of wood. His eyes didn't spin around like pin-wheels but they

were
jumping around a lot. You could almost hear the ideas bumping into each

other.

"Up in Oregon, now. And it's mostly birch." I thumped the roof of his

car to
let him know he could take it away. "Call me. I'll show you how to rivet

then
show you how to make a proper glue joint. Once you understand the

procedures
you'll see most of the trade-offs yourself."

"You know, glue provides a continuous bond where rivets only fasten things
together like sewing. Or nails. Or..."

Back in the shop the air compressor cycled on, reminding me I had things

to do.
But I'd lit his fire and he was enjoying the glow. You could hear the

whirr
of his gears. Any minute now I expected to see smoke coming out his ears.

I
thumped the roof again, harder. "Pup fish. Go count some."

He drove off and I went back to work. That aileron really did look like

hell.
I found the drill motor and knocked the curls off the thing. If the

professor
builds an airplane I have a hunch it won't need any gap-fillers.

Cleaning up the aileron, I got to thinking about what he said, about never
having thought of wood as an aviation material. Without really meaning

to, we
fall prey to our prejudices. But given just a glimpse of wood's

versatility
the professor immediately began to see it's advantages. I wonder how many

of
us don a pair of blinders when we look at airplanes?

According to data from the Census of 2000 the median income in the United
States was $27,800. With approximately 135 million wage earners that

means
about 67 million of them are earning LESS than twenty-seven eight. During

that
same period one of the so-called Leaders of Sport Aviation referred to a
$20,000 airplane kit as "inexpensive" and a $25,000 Lycoming as

"affordable."

Kind of makes you wonder who he's talking about. Certainly not any of the
sixty-seven million poor *******s pulling down that median wage. Or less.
Median means middle, you know. 'Average' is what the bean counters like

to
talk about. Average wage, you get to include Billy Gates, the head of the
Stock Exchange, those Enron execs and all of our millionaire Congressmen.
Average income in America is pretty high. But if you plan the future of
American aviation on the Average Income you've just guaranteed the end of
General Aviation as we know it. Come to think of it, I've got a hunch

someone
already has.

Wood isn't very expensive. Yet. While we're all sitting around with our

thumb
up our ass waiting for the bean counters to deliver another unworkable
bureaucratic solution to our steadily dwindling numbers, maybe we should

be
teaching folks how to whittle their own airplanes.

-R.S.Hoover



  #13  
Old November 7th 03, 12:12 PM
Model Flyer
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"Nordica Design" wrote in message
...


I suppose you intended to comment about some part of the message
below, however I don't see the point in just resending someone elses
message, saying nothing.
--

..
--
Cheers,
Jonathan Lowe
whatever at antispam dot net
No email address given because of spam.
Antispam trap in place


"Veeduber" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
Fellow came by the shop to borrow a Dutch Oven. He works at one

of the
local
colleges and is a Boat Person rather than a Plane Person. Boat

People
usually
takes their kitchen with him when they travel but he's taking a

bunch of
college kids over to Death Valley to count pup fish and the best

the
college
could do for chow and equipment was a couple of Sierra cups and

some
outdated
MRE's.

I've known this guy maybe twenty years, figure it's safe to loan

him a
Dutch
Oven. He's built a couple of boats, knows about wood. I helped

him rig
an
aluminum mast, 'way back when sometime. He knows I fiddle with

airplanes
but
thought they were always aluminum.

"I thought you only worked in aluminum,' he said. We were out

behind the
shop.
Perplexed look on his face, inspecting an aileron that seemed to

be
growing
plumes of wood shavings where the ribs attached to the spar. I

found the
Dutch
Oven, not too rusty considering it hadn't been used in a year or

more.
Took it
in the shop to clean it up. He wasn't leaving til the next day;

there
would be
time to season the oven before he left.

I've been making some tail feathers. One set is all corners,

simple and
quick
to build. The other is all curves. I had a bundle of pine

strips, one
inch
wide but barely an eighth of an inch thick. When he arrived I'd

been
scarfing
them into ten-foot strips. Being a Boat Person he knows about

scarfing.

"What slope is that?"

I didn't know. I finished cleaning up the Dutch Oven, went in

the house
for
some bacon grease, rubbed it down good. You can use vegetable

oil if you
want.
When I came back out to the shop he'd found a yo-yo and was

measuring the
scarfs.

"That's about sixteen to one," he sounded surprised. Boat people

tend to
use
steep scarfs; eight to one; even six

Best I could do was shrug. I honestly had no idea what the slope

was,
told him
so. For the second time.

"How can you be sure they'll match if you don't even know what

slope
you're
using?"

He sounded kind of stern. I just looked at him. College

teacher. Boat
person. He'd figure it out. I waited, kept looking at him.

"Oh!" You could almost see the light bulb go on over his head.

(So long as you cut all of your scarfs using the same set-up,

they'll
match.
It doesn't really matter what the angle is.)

The big disk sander was still set up for scarfing. I'd clamped a

piece of
2x4
to the table, cocked it around so it formed a very flat angle

relative to
the
disk then simply shoved the strips into the gap like sharpening a

pencil.
Full
depth, the disk cut a taper about two inches long. The strips

are about a
sixty-fourth shy of an eighth, which was how the set-up came out.

I
found
some scrap, squared them on the bandsaw, let him scarf them then

put them
together to see how they fit. Nice.

Scarf joint is a special case of end-grain gluing. For full

strength
across
the joint you need a lot of surface which dictates a nice flat

angle.
Producing that angle by sanding presents you with something of a

problem..
You
need to get the sanding residue out of the fibers. I coat it

with glue
then
scrape it off with a single edged razor blade, then apply fresh

glue.
Seems to
work okay, which is good because most of the strips had three

splices -
four
pieces of wood. That's the reality of Building On The Cheap,

using
whatever
wood is locally available.

I showed him a couple that were already glued, showing off a bit

by tying
one
in a knot. They were glued with an epoxy because it's less

viscous than
most
of my other glues and epoxy doesn't need a lot of pressure to

make a good
joint. To turn short strips into long ones, I taped them to a

work bench.
There was a small strip of waxed paper under the glued area but

the
alignment
was strictly by eye, sighting down the strip until they aligned

then
holding it
in place by taping it to the bench. This leaves the scarf free

to lift
up,
apply the glue and check the wet-out. Then another piece of

waxed paper
went
over the top followed by a steel plate to provide some weight.

Clean-up
is
with a razor after which one edge gets trued up. They aren't

perfectly
straight but for making bows, they don't have to be. All you

need is one
edge
that is reasonably true. That will be the down-edge when I

laminate the
curve,
which should take about fourteen of the strips and about two

dozen
sewer-pipe
clamps, plus a couple of real clamps to secure the laminated bow

to the
blocks
that make up the curves. Once the bow is cured it will be carved

to its
final
shape. Any irregularities in the strips will vanish during the

carving.

Out back of the shop I dug around, found the trivet and some fire

irons,
showed
him a Squaw Wood kit and explained how to use it, loaned him a

pair of
heavy
leather gloves. He kept looking at the aileron with its little

tufts of
wood
shavings fluttering in the breeze.

I explained that they were errors. Those particular blocks had

shown a
gap
when fitted in place. I didn't want to make up new blocks so I

installed
them
square then filled the gap with wood shavings coated with glue on

both
sides.
Once the glue is cured I'll sand off the curls. I also pointed

out an
error he
hadn't seen, where the disk sander got away from me and gouged a

rib.

"How did you keep it in place?" he asked, which was a good

question. The
rib
is curved and less than a quarter of an inch thick.

"Clothes pins. Put some waxed paper over the glue." If I

couldn't grab
it
with clothes pins I'd of had to use rubber bands or something

like that.
Once
the glue had cured I sanded the patch smooth.

"Does it effect the strength?"

"Not there. This all gets covered with cloth; it has to be

smooth. Worse
case
load is a few pounds per inch of rib."

He had his nose right down into the thing now looking at the

filleted
joints
and the scarfed doublers. And the struts.

"Are those what I think they are?" he pointed to a strut.

"Are you thinking bamboo?"

"Actually, I was thinking shish-ka-bob."

"You sound like my wife. No, those are Aviation Certified bamboo

struts."

He gave me a look. I gave him a look. We both grinned.

All loaded up, he started his engine then ran the window down.

"I hadn't
really thought about wood in the way you're using it there.

What's the
trade-off compared to using aluiminum?" We've talked airplanes

before.
He's
dead set against composites, having developed a major reaction to

resin.
And
he's not much of a hand with metal. But he likes wood.

"Go play with your pup fish," I told him. "Give me a call when

you get
back."
He didn't look too happy with that. "It's not a trivial subject.

The
biggest
airplane ever built was made out of wood."

"The Spruce Goose! Up in Long Beach, by the Queen Mary." He'd

just
remembered
it was made of wood. His eyes didn't spin around like pin-wheels

but they
were
jumping around a lot. You could almost hear the ideas bumping

into each
other.

"Up in Oregon, now. And it's mostly birch." I thumped the roof

of his
car to
let him know he could take it away. "Call me. I'll show you how

to rivet
then
show you how to make a proper glue joint. Once you understand

the
procedures
you'll see most of the trade-offs yourself."

"You know, glue provides a continuous bond where rivets only

fasten things
together like sewing. Or nails. Or..."

Back in the shop the air compressor cycled on, reminding me I had

things
to do.
But I'd lit his fire and he was enjoying the glow. You could

hear the
whirr
of his gears. Any minute now I expected to see smoke coming out

his ears.
I
thumped the roof again, harder. "Pup fish. Go count some."

He drove off and I went back to work. That aileron really did

look like
hell.
I found the drill motor and knocked the curls off the thing. If

the
professor
builds an airplane I have a hunch it won't need any gap-fillers.

Cleaning up the aileron, I got to thinking about what he said,

about never
having thought of wood as an aviation material. Without really

meaning
to, we
fall prey to our prejudices. But given just a glimpse of wood's

versatility
the professor immediately began to see it's advantages. I wonder

how many
of
us don a pair of blinders when we look at airplanes?

According to data from the Census of 2000 the median income in

the United
States was $27,800. With approximately 135 million wage earners

that
means
about 67 million of them are earning LESS than twenty-seven

eight. During
that
same period one of the so-called Leaders of Sport Aviation

referred to a
$20,000 airplane kit as "inexpensive" and a $25,000 Lycoming as

"affordable."

Kind of makes you wonder who he's talking about. Certainly not

any of the
sixty-seven million poor *******s pulling down that median wage.

Or less.
Median means middle, you know. 'Average' is what the bean

counters like
to
talk about. Average wage, you get to include Billy Gates, the

head of the
Stock Exchange, those Enron execs and all of our millionaire

Congressmen.
Average income in America is pretty high. But if you plan the

future of
American aviation on the Average Income you've just guaranteed

the end of
General Aviation as we know it. Come to think of it, I've got a

hunch
someone
already has.

Wood isn't very expensive. Yet. While we're all sitting around

with our
thumb
up our ass waiting for the bean counters to deliver another

unworkable
bureaucratic solution to our steadily dwindling numbers, maybe we

should
be
teaching folks how to whittle their own airplanes.

-R.S.Hoover





  #14  
Old November 7th 03, 06:07 PM
Jerry Springer
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And your point of keeping the whole message intact and resending is?????

Model Flyer wrote:
"Nordica Design" wrote in message
...


I suppose you intended to comment about some part of the message
below, however I don't see the point in just resending someone elses
message, saying nothing.
--

.
--
Cheers,
Jonathan Lowe
whatever at antispam dot net
No email address given because of spam.
Antispam trap in place



"Veeduber" a écrit dans le message de news:
...

Fellow came by the shop to borrow a Dutch Oven. He works at one


of the

local

colleges and is a Boat Person rather than a Plane Person. Boat


People


***SNIP***

  #15  
Old November 8th 03, 05:35 PM
Model Flyer
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"Jerry Springer" wrote in message
nk.net...
And your point of keeping the whole message intact and resending

is?????


I did hope that if the whole message was included you may make the
comment you intended.
--

..
--
Cheers,
Jonathan Lowe
whatever at antispam dot net
No email address given because of spam.
Antispam trap in place


Model Flyer wrote:
"Nordica Design" wrote in message
...


I suppose you intended to comment about some part of the message
below, however I don't see the point in just resending someone

elses
message, saying nothing.
--

.
--
Cheers,
Jonathan Lowe
whatever at antispam dot net
No email address given because of spam.
Antispam trap in place



"Veeduber" a écrit dans le message de news:
...

Fellow came by the shop to borrow a Dutch Oven. He works at one


of the

local

colleges and is a Boat Person rather than a Plane Person. Boat


People


***SNIP***



 




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