Feedback on 304 CZ

What can you tell me about the 304 CZ from personal experiance?
I have read the posted reviews.

STUART SCHWARTZ wrote:

What can you tell me about the 304 CZ from personal experiance?
I have read the posted reviews.

Easy to rig. One of my clubbies has one that I've helped rig, very nice.
I have a 303 (Mosquito) and have owned a Ventus b, which have the same
automatic control connections as the 304. These make rigging pretty
worry-free. All three gliders also have the same trailing edge
flap/dive brake setup, which requires a few flights to get used to, but
really makes for slow/short landings. They don't give the kind of
modulation on approach that SH style air brakes do though. Off, half,
and full are how I tend view glide path control.
The 303 and 304 (plus some/all? DGs) have a parallelogram control stick.
Instead of rotating back and forth around a point at the base of the
stick, it slides fore and aft along a line (roll control is the same as
a conventional stick). This was a non-issue for transitioning into the
303, but it decreases the tendency for turbulence to bounce your hand
resulting in uncommanded pitch changes. I don't really understand why
it works (and frankly don't care , but it does.

Cheers,
Shawn

Stuart,

I have around 75 hours in the 304cz.

Its easy to rig, great handling (especially in the 15m configuration),
good performance, great fit/finish and the TE dive brakes are awesome.

Check out the owners section on wing and wheels web site for detailed
reviews.

Larry R.




On 13 Aug 2003 05:32:45 -0700, (STUART
SCHWARTZ) wrote:

What can you tell me about the 304 CZ from personal experiance?
I have read the posted reviews.

I have 800 hours on my 304 (an orignal Glasflügel, not CZ) and if you
have no ambitions to become World Champion I can truly recommend it.
Good craftmanship, good finish, excellent cockpit, nice handling etc

Robert
H304 s/n227 NS

STUART SCHWARTZ wrote:
What can you tell me about the 304 CZ from personal experiance?
I have read the posted reviews.

The parallelogram stick simply removes most of the input that the weight of
the pilots arm and hand might have on the control movements.

conventional stick - pull back - G increases - arm gets heavier and pulls
down on stick - increases sick back effect. Pilot makes effort to correct -
G decreases - arm gets lighter - unloads stick!

In rough air the effect starts with G loads from turbulence.

The theory is that PIO's are less likely in a ship with a parallelogram
control setup.

Ian

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STUART SCHWARTZ wrote:

The 303 and 304 (plus some/all? DGs) have a parallelogram control stick.
Instead of rotating back and forth around a point at the base of the
stick, it slides fore and aft along a line (roll control is the same as
a conventional stick). This was a non-issue for transitioning into the
303, but it decreases the tendency for turbulence to bounce your hand
resulting in uncommanded pitch changes. I don't really understand why
it works (and frankly don't care , but it does.

Cheers,
Shawn

Hello Robert,
I'm a german glider pilot, living and flying near Munich and searching for a Glasfluegel H304. As I red your report I would like to ask you if you are planning to sell your plane within the near future. In this case I would be glad to get a message from you. Thanks in advance
Kind regards
Wolfgang Hake
Pullach/Germany

Originally Posted by Robert Danewid

I have 800 hours on my 304 (an orignal Glasflügel, not CZ) and if you
have no ambitions to become World Champion I can truly recommend it.
Good craftmanship, good finish, excellent cockpit, nice handling etc

Robert
H304 s/n227 NS

STUART SCHWARTZ wrote:
What can you tell me about the 304 CZ from personal experiance?
I have read the posted reviews.

Hi Wolfgang

No, I have no plans to sell it in the near future.

Best wishes
Robert


whsensor wrote:
Hello Robert,
I'm a german glider pilot, living and flying near Munich and searching
for a Glasfluegel H304. As I red your report I would like to ask you if
you are planning to sell your plane within the near future. In this case
I would be glad to get a message from you. Thanks in advance
Kind regards
Wolfgang Hake
Pullach/Germany






Robert Danewid Wrote:

I have 800 hours on my 304 (an orignal Glasflügel, not CZ) and if you
have no ambitions to become World Champion I can truly recommend it.
Good craftmanship, good finish, excellent cockpit, nice handling etc

Robert
H304 s/n227 NS

STUART SCHWARTZ wrote:-
What can you tell me about the 304 CZ from personal experiance?
I have read the posted reviews.-