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Old December 16th 05, 11:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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One of my students asked me if it is legal to let a friend fly his
plane. Student is legal PIC, not an instructor and the plane has dual
controls, his friend is an adult, but no license. But I have to admit,
although I don't know of any specific prohibition on this, I'm not sure
if I should tell him its legal or not (I told him I'd research it and
get back to him. In the meantime he is supposed to read the FARS and
see if he can find out for himself).

Anyone know for sure?

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Old December 16th 05, 11:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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One of my students asked me if it is legal to let a friend fly his
plane.


For part 91 light plane operations, there is no rule against it. It is
legal. You remain PIC and you remain responsible for the safety of the
flight.

Jose
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Old December 16th 05, 11:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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A pilot with a certificate, other than a student pilot
certificate, may carry passengers. A student pilot may not
carry passengers, they must fly dual or solo.
But if a pilot wants, they may allow any person to handle
the controls, but then neither may log that time.

He should be aware that the insurance company object and he
should be careful about conditions.


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James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

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| One of my students asked me if it is legal to let a friend
fly his
| plane. Student is legal PIC, not an instructor and the
plane has dual
| controls, his friend is an adult, but no license. But I
have to admit,
| although I don't know of any specific prohibition on this,
I'm not sure
| if I should tell him its legal or not (I told him I'd
research it and
| get back to him. In the meantime he is supposed to read
the FARS and
| see if he can find out for himself).
|
| Anyone know for sure?
|


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Old December 16th 05, 11:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Doug wrote:

One of my students asked me if it is legal to let a friend fly his
plane. Student is legal PIC, not an instructor and the plane has dual
controls, his friend is an adult, but no license. But I have to admit,
although I don't know of any specific prohibition on this, I'm not sure
if I should tell him its legal or not (I told him I'd research it and
get back to him. In the meantime he is supposed to read the FARS and
see if he can find out for himself).

Anyone know for sure?


Last I knew, primary students couldn't carry passengers. If your
student is an instrument student with a private license (I'm assuming
this is a reasonably assumption given this ng), then sure he can let a
friend handle the controls.

Matt
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Old December 17th 05, 12:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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If the student has a private certificate, its legal. If your student is
a student pilot, it is not legal.

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Old December 17th 05, 12:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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When I said student was legal PIC, guess I should have said student
had Private Pilot and all the ratings/signoffs to be PIC in this
airplane.

So yes, I guess he's legal so far as the FAA.

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Old December 17th 05, 12:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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But if a pilot wants, they may allow any person to handle
the controls, but then neither may log that time.


As I understand it, the person ACTING as Pilot In Command may always log the
time (as total time and PIC time), whether that person is sole manipulator
of the flight controls or not. More than one person can certainly log PIC
time, but I can't think of a circumstance when nobody can log PIC time.

-Mike


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Old December 17th 05, 01:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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As I understand it, the person ACTING as Pilot In Command may always log the
time (as total time and PIC time), whether that person is sole manipulator
of the flight controls or not.


That is my understanding as well. The PIC is someone how accepts
responsibility for the safety of the flight, whether he/she is
manipulating the controls or not.

Best Regards,
Todd

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Old December 17th 05, 01:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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I meant "who", not "how"... Damn fat fingers!!! ;-)

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Old December 17th 05, 01:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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In a previous article, "Doug" said:
One of my students asked me if it is legal to let a friend fly his
plane. Student is legal PIC, not an instructor and the plane has dual


When you're a legally certificated and medicalled pilot, and you let your
friends or family members take the controls, they are just a meat-based
autopilot. You're still PIC, and it's no different than if you'd turned
on George.

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