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I used to subscribe to RSS feed to receive every glider related news around the world. I unssubscribed after few month as I was getting depressed almost on a daily basis :-( Ramy On Sep 15, 10:28*am, Frank Whiteley wrote: On Sep 15, 8:49*am, "Wayne Paul" wrote: The Daily Mail has several glider related articles.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/sear...hPhrase=Glider Waynehttp://www.soaridaho.com http://www.topix.net/hobbies/gliding I try to link to most intelligent articles here. *That is, without histrionics, with useful descriptions and details, or those that capture something special, including blogs. The site has RSS feeds and code to embed into a web site. * See bottom left ofwww.coloradosoaring.orgfor an example. *The site 'spiders' occasionally capture a duplicate or off topic post. Frank 'SkySlicer' Whiteley |
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On Sep 14, 12:06*pm, Mike the Strike wrote:
On Sep 14, 8:54*am, " wrote: On Sep 14, 7:43*am, Frank Whiteley wrote: Everything went right after everything went wrong http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-air-crash-pi.... Would it not have been better for the pilot to stay in the cockpit untill rescue crews arrived? Obviously in this crash as in many others involving gliders the chance of spinal cord injury is great. I would think that extracting yourself from the cockpit would increase the chance of aggravating any injury. Robert Mudd Classic stall spin from low altitude under strong wind/ wind shear. You'd have thought an experienced aerobatic pilot would have seen that coming. *He's very lucky! Mike Mike You'd think... Years ago (young, single, no kids, etc.) I used to fly in whatever I could whenever I could. I was extremely current/ proficient, including doing some intro-aerobatics instructing in an L-13AC. A guy at the local airfield invited me up in his two-place Fox because he wanted to improve his thermalling technique. He's rocketing around at almost 60kts and 20 degrees of bank and we're barely climbing. "Let me show you how it's done" I called from the back seat. "I got it. See here, you just bank it over a bit more, slow us up a little." "Umm" he says, you might want to watch that airspeed." "Well, you have to get us slowed up a bit or we'll..." I started. Never finished that sentence, as by then we were staring straight down at the ground rotating at a nice rate. The thing departed into a spin with absolutely NO warning. NO buffet. NO complaints. One minute we're flying. The next we're spinning. It really felt like the controls came disconnected. The stick had almost no load on it for a few seconds. I recovered uneventfully, and we both had a good chuckle. Point being, these aerobatic ships with anhedral and symmetrical or near-symmetrical airfoils aren't very forgiving. There but for the grace of God... P3 |
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On Sep 14, 6:43*am, Frank Whiteley wrote:
Everything went right after everything went wrong http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-air-crash-pi... Very interesting observation if you look at the photos you'll notice the first one impact is about 15-20' in front of the line and the last one is behind the line on the runway. How is the Swift moving backwards during the impact sequence? |
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At 10:16 16 September 2010, glidergeek wrote:
On Sep 14, 6:43=A0am, Frank Whiteley wrote: Everything went right after everything went wrong http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-air-crash-pi... Very interesting observation if you look at the photos you'll notice the first one impact is about 15-20' in front of the line and the last one is behind the line on the runway. How is the Swift moving backwards during the impact sequence? It bounced, its not unusual for a glider to bounce if it hits wing tip first. That takes a lot of the energy out of the fuselage impact; that energy is then unleashed backwards or sideways. As well as his SCI he was very lucky not to have severe ankle injuries. I wish him well and a speedy recovery. Dave |
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Dave Stewart wrote:
It bounced, its not unusual for a glider to bounce if it hits wing tip first. Luckily I have too little experience to know what is "ususal" or "unusual" when a glider hits wing tip first. |
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On Sep 16, 11:16*am, glidergeek wrote:
On Sep 14, 6:43*am, Frank Whiteley wrote: Everything went right after everything went wrong http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-air-crash-pi... Very interesting observation if you look at the photos you'll notice the first one impact is about 15-20' in front of the line and the last one is behind the line on the runway. How is the Swift moving backwards during the impact sequence? Some years ago one of my syndicate partners spun our glider in from a slow autotow launch, with fatal consequences. That impacted nose down on the runway and bounced several metres backwards. It was a wooden glider and there was very little left of the cockpit forward of the leading edge of the wing. Derek C |
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