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Old September 3rd 09, 03:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Evan Salant
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I fly out of Linden (KLDJ) Airport, which is located under the floor
of Class B Airspace (Newark Airport's bravo airspace, shared with JFK
and LGA). The traffic pattern altitude at LInden is 800 feet and the
floor of the Class B airspace is also 800 feet.

My question is this: What is the airspace below the floor of this
Class B airspace ? Is it Class G ?

Would you be legal flying (daytime) simply "clear of clouds" ? Could
you fly with an 800 foot ceiling ?

The regulations on this are a little murky...I've heard some people
say Class E goes all the way to the ground below B but could never
find this in the FARs/AIM.
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Old September 3rd 09, 05:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Robert Moore
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Evan Salant wrote

My question is this: What is the airspace below the floor of this
Class B airspace ? Is it Class G ?


YES

Would you be legal flying (daytime) simply "clear of clouds" ?


YES with 1 mile visibility

Could you fly with an 800 foot ceiling ?


YES, if you can comply with Section 91.119: Minimum safe altitudes

The regulations on this are a little murky...I've heard some people
say Class E goes all the way to the ground below B but could never
find this in the FARs/AIM.


It only goes to either 700' or 1200'. Ref: FAA ASF 92 / -002, "Airspace
Reclassification at a Glance".

Bob Moore

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Old September 3rd 09, 09:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]
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Evan Salant wrote:

I fly out of Linden (KLDJ) Airport, which is located under the floor
of Class B Airspace (Newark Airport's bravo airspace, shared with JFK
and LGA). The traffic pattern altitude at LInden is 800 feet and the
floor of the Class B airspace is also 800 feet.

My question is this: What is the airspace below the floor of this
Class B airspace ? Is it Class G ?


Immediately below the Class B floor it's Class E airspace, Class E begins at
700 AGL, it's Class G below that.


Would you be legal flying (daytime) simply "clear of clouds"?


Below 700 AGL, yes.


Could you fly with an 800 foot ceiling ?


Below 700 AGL, yes.


The regulations on this are a little murky...I've heard some people
say Class E goes all the way to the ground below B but could never
find this in the FARs/AIM.


Class E to the surface is designated by a dashed magenta line.


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Old September 3rd 09, 11:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Evan Salant wrote:
I fly out of Linden (KLDJ) Airport, which is located under the floor
of Class B Airspace (Newark Airport's bravo airspace, shared with JFK
and LGA). The traffic pattern altitude at LInden is 800 feet and the
floor of the Class B airspace is also 800 feet.

My question is this: What is the airspace below the floor of this
Class B airspace ? Is it Class G ?

Would you be legal flying (daytime) simply "clear of clouds" ? Could
you fly with an 800 foot ceiling ?

The regulations on this are a little murky...I've heard some people
say Class E goes all the way to the ground below B but could never
find this in the FARs/AIM.


No, the regulations aren't murky. They state that a higher class of
airspace supercedes a lower class. If you check the sectional the
entire New York area is surrounded by Class E transition airspace.
(700-foot floor). That applies except where superceded by Class B or D
airspace. So, the airspace over KLDJ is Class G below 700 feet, agl.
There is a 100-foot layer of Class E below the Class B over the airport.
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Old September 4th 09, 04:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Evan Salant
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On Sep 3, 6:22*pm, Sam Spade wrote:
Evan Salant wrote:
I fly out of Linden (KLDJ) Airport, which is located under the floor
of Class BAirspace(Newark Airport's bravoairspace, shared with JFK
and LGA). *The traffic pattern altitude at LInden is 800 feet and the
floor of the Class Bairspaceis also 800 feet.


My question is this: *What is theairspacebelow the floor of this
Class Bairspace? *Is it Class G ?


Would you be legal flying (daytime) simply "clear of clouds" ? *Could
you fly with an 800 foot ceiling ?


The regulations on this are a little murky...I've heard some people
say Class E goes all the way to the ground below B but could never
find this in the FARs/AIM.


No, the regulations aren't murky. *They state that a higher class ofairspacesupercedes a lower class. *If you check the sectional the
entire New York area is surrounded by Class E transitionairspace.
(700-foot floor). *That applies except where superceded by Class B or Dairspace. *So, theairspaceover KLDJ is Class G below 700 feet, agl.
There is a 100-foot layer of Class E below the Class B over the airport.


Thanks this is all helpful. Bottom line seems to be class G below 700
feet. Thanks.
 




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