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Kerry is hiding his records
"David Stinson" wrote in message news:15Z3d.5382$PZ4.4975@trnddc06... Dudley Henriques wrote: ....and if my guess is right, there's also something in those records that would require he step down as a Senator also. If only it were so... The American people have already shown that Demoncrat pols can get away literally with treason and murder. Clinton proved that. We will demand nothing and do nothing. Let a Republican fart in church and the media will eat him and his children, raw. Let a Demoncrat sell his nation's military secrets to China for blood money, and we'll yawn and watch re-runs of "Oprah." Not all of us........... :-) Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired |
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"Justin" wrote in message .. . "David Stinson" wrote in message news:15Z3d.5382$PZ4.4975@trnddc06... Dudley Henriques wrote: ....and if my guess is right, there's also something in those records that would require he step down as a Senator also. If only it were so... The American people have already shown that Demoncrat pols can get away literally with treason and murder. Clinton proved that. We will demand nothing and do nothing. Let a Republican fart in church and the media will eat him and his children, raw. Let a Demoncrat sell his nation's military secrets to China for blood money, and we'll yawn and watch re-runs of "Oprah." This is the reason why I always get crazy and tell people/friends that... in this world, some people deserves/needs to die or be dead. And I get accused of a homocidal maniac. In the interest of clarity, I must disassociate myself from the direction this dialog is going and make it known that I personally would NOT, and I restate again; would NOT wish anyone dead for political reasons. This is NOT the way we settle things in the United States......at least I don't anyway! I'll now leave you more "violent types" to the rest of this thread to do with as you wish. Thank you Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired |
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"Muff" wrote in message ... Kerry is hiding the fact that he did not meet his reserve commitment by attending weekends and two week stints during the summer. He was awol just like they accused Bush of. Only differance is that Bush filled all his squares and was honorably discharged. Muff A real combat vet Actually it could be much worse than this. If Kerry was still in his reserve commitment period at the time he went to North Vietnam, and evidence seems to indicate that he was, he was still an officer in the United States Navy. The United States was at war. If this situation shows up in Kerry's concealed records, he is not only disqualified from a run for the office of President, but if retroactively prosecuted and found guilty, I believe he could even be expelled from the Senate. Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired |
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in
ink.net: Actually it could be much worse than this. If Kerry was still in his reserve commitment period at the time he went to North Vietnam, and evidence seems to indicate that he was, he was still an officer in the United States Navy. The United States was at war. If this situation shows up in Kerry's concealed records, he is not only disqualified from a run for the office of President, but if retroactively prosecuted and found guilty, I believe he could even be expelled from the Senate. Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired Yes,if we could get Congress to impeach Kerry,very doubtful they'd do it. I doubt if we could get the Navy to prosecute him for treason.There's no statute of limitations on that,is there? -- Jim Yanik jyanik-at-kua.net |
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"Jim Yanik" wrote in message .. . "Dudley Henriques" wrote in ink.net: Actually it could be much worse than this. If Kerry was still in his reserve commitment period at the time he went to North Vietnam, and evidence seems to indicate that he was, he was still an officer in the United States Navy. The United States was at war. If this situation shows up in Kerry's concealed records, he is not only disqualified from a run for the office of President, but if retroactively prosecuted and found guilty, I believe he could even be expelled from the Senate. Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired Yes,if we could get Congress to impeach Kerry,very doubtful they'd do it. I doubt if we could get the Navy to prosecute him for treason.There's no statute of limitations on that,is there? I'm not an expert on these matters but I don't believe there is a statute of limitations on such a charge. The rub in all this is that the answer is already known to a select few, but the information legally can't be released to the public or more importantly acted upon legally unless Kerry signs the request form that releases the records as public domain. Unless he is forced to sign that form by a concentrated media effort directed specifically at this issue, Kerry can very well refuse to release these records indefinitely and that is EXACTLY what he intends to do. What constitutes a terrible scenario is if Kerry wins the Presidency; then something is done afterward that alters the law to allow the release of his records. If this happens after the election, the result could be catastrophic for the nation! Of course this is just my humble read on all this, and if there's one damn thing I'm glad I'm NEVER going to be in this life, it's a GD lawyer!!! Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired |
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Dudley commented:
I'm not an expert on these matters but I don't believe there is a statute of limitations on such a charge. For the legal people...Can a President pardon himself? Ford got Nixon off the hook, but could Nixon have pardoned himself before he resigned? Could Kerry pardon himself before anything came out? Rick |
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"OXMORON1" wrote in message ... Dudley commented: I'm not an expert on these matters but I don't believe there is a statute of limitations on such a charge. For the legal people...Can a President pardon himself? Ford got Nixon off the hook, but could Nixon have pardoned himself before he resigned? Could Kerry pardon himself before anything came out? Rick I don't think he could get away with that. The country would go nuts! But the harm to the country would be deep and permanent if a traitor was elected to the Presidency and afterward had to be removed from office. It would split the country wide open. The wounds would never heal. If this guy's records have to be seen; they'll have to be seen BEFORE the election, and if those records contain what many think they contain. Kerry will fight like hell to keep them secret by not signing that damn release form. The Swifties could do it if they tried hard enough in public, but that's the only way I can think of to force that issue. Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired |
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IBM wrote:
Now that would be interesting. Ought not simple arithmetic be able to determine whether or not his commitment was up at the time in question? Not all that simple, unless he had resigned his commission or had recelved his discharge he was still a reserve officer. So you need to see the records to find out if either had happened. Rick Clark |
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"OXMORON1" wrote in message ... IBM wrote: Now that would be interesting. Ought not simple arithmetic be able to determine whether or not his commitment was up at the time in question? Not all that simple, unless he had resigned his commission or had recelved his discharge he was still a reserve officer. So you need to see the records to find out if either had happened. Actually, his own website is a bit shady on this topic. The service timeline shows that he requested releases from active duty on 1 March 1970 and was released from *active* duty the following month, and that is where it ends ( http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_..._timeline.html ), with no mention of subsequent reserve service. But in the "records" section of the site it shows that his request for discharge from the USNR was not accepted and approved until1978 ( http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilse...al_Reserve.pdf ) .. So up front they leave one with the impression he was out free-and-clear in 1970, but that most assuredly was not the case. There is no question that he was still a USNR officer when he was pulling his VVAW/Winter Soldier Investigation stunts in 1971. Brooks Rick Clark |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:45:54 -0700, Willcox
wrote: In article . net, Steven P. McNicoll wrote: "RalphNader 2004" wrote in message ... Why does Kerry continue to hide his military records and refuse to sign a SF 180? Because there's something in those records that would diminish his chances of becoming president if it became known. 1977 - Jimmy Carter signs widesweeping pardon for "violations of the Military Selective Service Act alleged to have occurred between August 4, 1964 and March 28, 1973". http://www.archives.gov/federal_regi...cutive_order/1 1967.html 1978 - John Kerry flinally gets an honorable discharge: http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/j...isnavresrv.pdf No need to go to findlaw. It is right there on the Kerry site along with the more official letter... http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilse...al_Reserve.pdf http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilse...om_Reserve.pdf |
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