Left can't read well nor do they understand Constitution

"John Galt" wrote in message
om...
Will the military obey the Constitution and arrest Bush?
http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/...ws/7690067.htm

First, "The report, by visiting professor Jeffrey Record" indicates this was
one man's opinion, not that of the War College.

Second, the militray doesn't have the legal right to arrest the President,
and I challenge anyone to demonstrate otherwise.

Jarg

"Jarg" wrote in message
. ..
"John Galt" wrote in message
om...
Will the military obey the Constitution and arrest Bush?
http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/...ws/7690067.htm

First, "The report, by visiting professor Jeffrey Record" indicates this
was
one man's opinion, not that of the War College.

A visiting professor at the Army War College who usually teaches the same
classes at the Air Force equivalent, apparently.


Second, the militray doesn't have the legal right to arrest the President,
and I challenge anyone to demonstrate otherwise.

Hmmmmm.... Can an American civilian ever be arrested by the military? Can a
commanding officer ever be arrested by orders of a subordinate? If the
answer to both of those is "yes," then it is conceivable (but not terribly
likely) that the President of the USA could be arrested by the military. I
wouldn't want to be the poor SP/MP ordered to make the arrest however...

"LawsonE" wrote in message
ink.net...

Hmmmmm.... Can an American civilian ever be arrested by the military?


Yes, on a military installation.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
news

"LawsonE" wrote in message
ink.net...

Hmmmmm.... Can an American civilian ever be arrested by the military?


Yes, on a military installation.

Not usually. Normally held for civil authorities.

Tex

"Tex Houston" wrote in message
...

Not usually. Normally held for civil authorities.


In other words, you concur with my statement.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 04:17:39 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:


"LawsonE" wrote in message
link.net...

Hmmmmm.... Can an American civilian ever be arrested by the military?


Yes, on a military installation.

Actually, no.

The military does not have arrest powers for any persons not under the
UCMJ.

What happens in real life is that - for minor offenses - the subject
is cited with a mandatory court appearance before a US Magistrate.
For serious offenses the subject is detained pending the arrival of
the US Marshals or FBI (who conduct the arrest).

(I spent a year pulling 'Military Police Duty Officer' 3-4x a month at
Ft Lewis not long ago and I got to be an expert on jurisdictional
issues.)


"It's not American foreign policy, or the plight of the
Palestinians, or America's longstanding support for Israel.
A group of people with money and weaponry have simply
decided that we, as a civilization, are unfit to live, and
want, eventally, to exterminate us."
'Christian Century' magazine

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:06:05 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:


"Tex Houston" wrote in message
...

Not usually. Normally held for civil authorities.


In other words, you concur with my statement.

No he does not.

'Arrest' is a precise legal term. Military Police do not have arrest
authority over civilians.


"It's not American foreign policy, or the plight of the
Palestinians, or America's longstanding support for Israel.
A group of people with money and weaponry have simply
decided that we, as a civilization, are unfit to live, and
want, eventally, to exterminate us."
'Christian Century' magazine

From: Colin Campbell (remove underscore)
Date: 1/16/2004 12:25 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 04:17:39 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:


"LawsonE" wrote in message
hlink.net...

Hmmmmm.... Can an American civilian ever be arrested by the military?


Yes, on a military installation.

Actually, no.

The military does not have arrest powers for any persons not under the
UCMJ.

What happens in real life is that - for minor offenses - the subject
is cited with a mandatory court appearance before a US Magistrate.
For serious offenses the subject is detained pending the arrival of
the US Marshals or FBI (who conduct the arrest).

(I spent a year pulling 'Military Police Duty Officer' 3-4x a month at
Ft Lewis not long ago and I got to be an expert on jurisdictional
issues.)



It's still a form of arrest. The miranda card I was issued had warnings for
apprehension of civilians on the reverse of the side for military. All noncoms,
warrants and officers have apprehension authority.

Technically arrest is not used since the UCMJ considers apprehention to be
physical restraint and arrest to be non physical as when an officer is place
under house arrest. He is not guarded.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Second, the militray doesn't have the legal right to arrest the President,
and I challenge anyone to demonstrate otherwise.

In less enlightened societies, this is regular practice, and is called
a coup.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email:

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

"Colin Campbell" (remove underscore) wrote in
message ...

Actually, no.

The military does not have arrest powers for any persons not under the
UCMJ.

What happens in real life is that - for minor offenses - the subject
is cited with a mandatory court appearance before a US Magistrate.
For serious offenses the subject is detained pending the arrival of
the US Marshals or FBI (who conduct the arrest).

(I spent a year pulling 'Military Police Duty Officer' 3-4x a month at
Ft Lewis not long ago and I got to be an expert on jurisdictional
issues.)


So if a civilian commits an offense on a military installation the military
police have no power to seize and hold him?