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IFR/Flight Following -- ATC Preferences?



 
 
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Old November 5th 05, 12:32 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Judah" wrote in message
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A plane being out of control implies a problem with the plane. A pilot
flying incorrectly implies a problem with the pilot. I believe the JFK Jr.
case is a case of the latter, not the former.


You are mistaken.

You are mistaken


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Old November 5th 05, 12:33 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Judah" wrote in message
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Pilot error Loss of aircraft control.


Do you have any aviation experience?


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Old November 5th 05, 12:50 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Roger" wrote in message
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He had nearly 100 hours hood time.


What is your source for that? The NTSB report says, "Within 100 days before
the accident, the pilot had completed about 50 percent of a formal
instrument training course." I see nothing about his total instrument time.



Had he been IFR it would have set off the alarms with the first
100 foot deviation.


There is no alarm for an altitude deviation and being off an assigned
altitude by just 100 feet isn't considered a deviation.


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Old November 5th 05, 02:51 PM
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That's not accurate. If the car is not travelling in the direction is
pointing it it is out of control.


That's not accurate. A car driven by a skillful race driver can skid
quite a bit while remaining totally in control. "In control", in the
sense that most people with whom I have acquaintance, means that the
driver has a good sense of what the vehicle is capable of and the
vehicle is doing what the driver wants it to do. "Out of control" means
that the driver is unable, perhaps by virtue of his lack of skill, to
make the vehicle do this. An aerobatics pilot has the plane completely
under his (or her) control doing the same maneuvers that a student pilot
would be totally out of control with.

But it doesn't really matter what words you want to apply to the situation.

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Old November 7th 05, 01:12 PM
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Jose wrote in
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But it doesn't really matter what words you want to apply to the
situation.



Yeah - this whole thread has death spiraled into a bickering over
semantics...
 




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