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How do most of you pilots set up a flight plan and what nav-aids doyou use.



 
 
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Old November 11th 09, 12:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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Default How do most of you pilots set up a flight plan and what nav-aids do you use.


"Mike Ash" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Dan Luke" wrote:

Another question would be; these days, a VHF radio, GPS unit, UART &
maybe a transponder would be all that would be required for a VFR
flight.


As Mike Nash said, you don't need any of those things if you stay out of
certain kinds of airspace.


While I enjoy the sound of "Nash" and am not complaining at all, I would
like to point out that you've added an extraneous N.

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Oops.

Sorry, Mike.

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Old November 11th 09, 01:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Brian Whatcott
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Default How do most of you pilots set up a flight plan and what nav-aidsdo you use.

Jim Logajan wrote:
Bob Nixon wrote:
The UART that I used to install back in 73 was a yellow colored snap-
on or Velcro battery powered emergency location crash transmitter box.


Aha! Perhaps you mean AN/URT beacon set radio, right? As in this:

http://www.tpub.com/1ase2/43.htm


Aha! I was wondering 'bout that.

BrianW
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Old November 12th 09, 02:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ęslop
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Default How do most of you pilots set up a flight plan and what nav-aids do you use.


"Bob Nixon" wrote in message
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The only nav-aids he has is
a GPS receiver-display and a required UART G force tripped box flying
out of now civilian Williams AFB. If he flew closer and or higher
toward Phoenix Sky Harbor airport he would be required to also have a
transponder so that the Sky Harbor GCA could track his airplane and
altitude and he'd have to tune his VHF radio to the GCA when in

..

If he is flying out of Williams Gateway, he is under the PHX Mode C veil.


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Old November 12th 09, 10:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Nixon
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Default How do most of you pilots set up a flight plan and what nav-aidsdo you use.

On Nov 10, 6:10*pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
Bob Nixon wrote:
The UART that I used to install back in *73 was a yellow colored snap-
on or Velcro battery powered emergency location crash transmitter box.


Aha! Perhaps you mean AN/URT beacon set radio, right? As in this:

http://www.tpub.com/1ase2/43.htm

To me, UART means "Universal Asynchronous Receiver/Transmitter" and was a
handy chip to have when one wanted to convert serial bit stream to parallel
byte streams and vice versa (as in modems and such.) Sure beat wiring
together (and debugging) discrete TTL chips to accomplish the same thing.


I must have gotten those acronyms messed up over the years, How about
ELT for emergency location transmitter?
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Old November 12th 09, 10:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Logajan
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Default How do most of you pilots set up a flight plan and what nav-aids do you use.

Bob Nixon wrote:
On Nov 10, 6:10*pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
Bob Nixon wrote:
The UART that I used to install back in *73 was a yellow colored
snap

-
on or Velcro battery powered emergency location crash transmitter
box.


Aha! Perhaps you mean AN/URT beacon set radio, right? As in this:

http://www.tpub.com/1ase2/43.htm

To me, UART means "Universal Asynchronous Receiver/Transmitter" and
was a handy chip to have when one wanted to convert serial bit stream
to parall

el
byte streams and vice versa (as in modems and such.) Sure beat wiring
together (and debugging) discrete TTL chips to accomplish the same
thing.


I must have gotten those acronyms messed up over the years, How about
ELT for emergency location transmitter?


Works for me.
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Old November 13th 09, 06:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mike Ash
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Default How do most of you pilots set up a flight plan and what nav-aids do you use.

In article ,
Jim Logajan wrote:

Bob Nixon wrote:
On Nov 10, 6:10*pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
Bob Nixon wrote:
The UART that I used to install back in *73 was a yellow colored
snap

-
on or Velcro battery powered emergency location crash transmitter
box.

Aha! Perhaps you mean AN/URT beacon set radio, right? As in this:

http://www.tpub.com/1ase2/43.htm

To me, UART means "Universal Asynchronous Receiver/Transmitter" and
was a handy chip to have when one wanted to convert serial bit stream
to parall

el
byte streams and vice versa (as in modems and such.) Sure beat wiring
together (and debugging) discrete TTL chips to accomplish the same
thing.


I must have gotten those acronyms messed up over the years, How about
ELT for emergency location transmitter?


Works for me.


Me too. Of course this is also optional equipment in many
circumstances....

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Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon
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Old November 13th 09, 12:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Brian Whatcott
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Default How do most of you pilots set up a flight plan and what nav-aidsdo you use.

Mike Ash wrote:
How about
ELT for emergency location transmitter?


Works for me.


Me too. Of course this is also optional equipment in many
circumstances....


There are ELTs and ELTs...
the usual article may have a remote switch, but emits on 121.5 and 243
MHz I watched the fellow in the next hangar testing his g switch:
he replaced the battery, then swung the ELT smartly against a tire.
At 5 to the hour, naturally... There was a recent alert about stuck g
switches, I hear.

The later article features 406MHz emissions I hear. I must find out more
about them.

Brian W
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Old November 13th 09, 05:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Brian Whatcott
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Default How do most of you pilots set up a flight plan and what nav-aidsdo you use.

Dave Doe wrote:
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You should - 'cos yer a bit out of date on the info thesedays. 406Mz
ELT's are manditory in most countries now.

Also the monitoring Cospass-Sarsat satellites will not find you with a
121.5Mz ELT as they don't monitor it anyymore. You'd better hope for a
nearby commercial aircraft that's monitoring 121.5 - it's about your
only chance now days.

The 406Mz system is also lots more accurate for position determination,
and, the beacons must be registered (registration of 121.5Mz devices was
never manditory).


Hi, User posting as Dave,

do you know how to relate emission frequency
to the length of a corresponding quarter wave whip?

Brian W
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Old November 14th 09, 05:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
MikeW
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Default How do most of you pilots set up a flight plan and what nav-aids do you use.

g'day Brian,

Call frequency "f". Speed of light c = 3*10^8 metres/second. Wavelength =
c/f in metres. Quarter-wave antenna length then is c/4*f.

So, 406 MHz, call it 400 to simplify a bit. Wavelength = 3*10^8/400*10^6 =
3*10^8/4*10^8 = 0.75 metres. Quarter wave a bit under 20 cm, which would be
a bit under 8 inches old scale.

Cheers ... MikeW.

"brian whatcott" wrote in message
...
Dave Doe wrote:
...

You should - 'cos yer a bit out of date on the info thesedays. 406Mz
ELT's are manditory in most countries now. Also the monitoring
Cospass-Sarsat satellites will not find you with a 121.5Mz ELT as they
don't monitor it anyymore. You'd better hope for a nearby commercial
aircraft that's monitoring 121.5 - it's about your only chance now days.

The 406Mz system is also lots more accurate for position determination,
and, the beacons must be registered (registration of 121.5Mz devices was
never manditory).


Hi, User posting as Dave,

do you know how to relate emission frequency
to the length of a corresponding quarter wave whip?

Brian W



 




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