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gutsy
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:42:06 -0600, Ralph Jones
wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:53:05 -0700 (PDT), Frank Whiteley wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRCbkBfdBrQ Almost nothing about that video passes the smell test. Just a couple of observations: 1) The wing root that's exposed just before the airplane turns around on the runway has no broken spars sticking out of it. Instead, it shows two nice round holes -- which looks just like the wing root of an RC model. In this model class, the wings are connected to the fuselage by aluminum tubes that telescope into fiberglass tubes built into the structure. 2) After the airplane stops, it sits dead level on the gear, even though there's ostensibly a few hundred pounds of wing missing from the other side. Plus which, neither video shows a single frame of the "damaged" airplane after the incident. rj |
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gutsy
Some other things I noticed: It appears that the airplane rolls
toward the 'good' wing instead of away from it as one would expect. The airplane comes to rest essentially level with the 'good' wing toward the camera when it's reasonable to expect that it would sag or even touch the ground if the other wing is missing. Even the 'failure' occurred at low airspeed in near vertical flight instead of under earlier high G loads. It looks like there may have been several flights videotaped with conveniently timed out-of-focus intervals that cover editing cuts and splices. On Oct 29, 3:15*pm, Nyal Williams wrote: I think it has been faked. *Woman's voice didn't sound alarmed about the wing. *Plane flew upside down in level flight briefly on one wing. *Came to rest too suddenly after touching down. He was slow getting out -- notice how slow he was latching the canopy open after it stopped and in his int4rview he said he smelled gas; *I think this was from another landing -- notice that the right wing doesn't show. At 20:51 29 October 2008, wrote: On Oct 29, 4:43=A0pm, "noel.wade" *wrote: It is most definitely fakery. =A0If nothing else, the landing "bounce" is wrong from a physics standpoint. --Noel There's an awful *lot "wrong" in that video. *But the clincher is that if you look frame by frame while he's taxiing you can see that there's no damage at all on the horizontal tail. That's a con job. |
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gutsy
I think this is totally fabricated. A month ago a R/C flier lost a
wing while doing a high speed snap roll and was able to land the model by basically flying it in knife edge. Modern R/C ships have such a high power to weight ratio, you can hover them on the prop. Here's a link to video and pictures, and the pilot's story: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=931845 Charlie |
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gutsy
On Oct 29, 11:53*am, Frank Whiteley wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRCbkBfdBrQ For crying out loud! That's fake as hell. Not saying it's impossible. But that video is a weak fabrication. |
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gutsy
Here's another pilot's account of a real wing fold. http://www.aerobatics.org.uk/repeats...ng_failure.htm -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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gutsy
On Oct 29, 2:55 pm, vontresc wrote:
On Oct 29, 12:53 pm, Frank Whiteley wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRCbkBfdBrQ Neat editing tricks......no way that is for real. Totally fake, but here's a story of an F15 landing with one wing (for real). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVkB7V-JybY |
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gutsy
"Martin Gregorie" wrote in message ... Here's another pilot's account of a real wing fold. http://www.aerobatics.org.uk/repeats...ng_failure.htm I distinctly remember a wild story of a lucky fellow who survived after a 1-26 lost some important parts in a thunderstorm, but a Google search turns up fruitless. Does anyone remember? Vaughn |
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gutsy
On Oct 30, 10:56*am, "Vaughn Simon"
wrote: "Martin Gregorie" wrote in message ... Here's another pilot's account of a real wing fold. http://www.aerobatics.org.uk/repeats...ng_failure.htm * *I distinctly remember a wild story of a lucky fellow who survived after a 1-26 lost some important parts in a thunderstorm, but a Google search turns up fruitless. *Does anyone remember? Vaughn http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief.asp?e...08X08467&key=1 The events preceding the wing separation as reported to the NTSB are ahem not exactly the way the story was retold in the local community. -T8 |
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gutsy
As I recall, it was published in Soaring. The pilot flew into cloud and
pulled a wing off. The aircraft spiralled down into trees at a golf course. The trees and bushes broke the fall and the pilot survived. Brian At 14:56 30 October 2008, Vaughn Simon wrote: "Martin Gregorie" wrote in message ... Here's another pilot's account of a real wing fold. http://www.aerobatics.org.uk/repeats...ng_failure.htm I distinctly remember a wild story of a lucky fellow who survived after a 1-26 lost some important parts in a thunderstorm, but a Google search turns up fruitless. Does anyone remember? Vaughn |
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gutsy
On Oct 29, 9:27*pm, wrote:
On Oct 29, 11:53*am, Frank Whiteley wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRCbkBfdBrQ For crying out loud! *That's fake as hell. Not saying it's impossible. *But that video is a weak fabrication. Apparently it's a production of a sports apparel company. Probably have the opposite effect they've intended. Frank Whiteley |
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