IPC questions?

On 29 May 2004 23:24:50 GMT, Stan Gosnell me@work wrote:

(Teacherjh) wrote in
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Please forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is ODP?

Obstacle Departure Procedure.

Seems to me that's redundant. The purpose of a departure
procedure is to provide obstacle clearance.

Perhaps, but that's the nomenclature used by the FAA in the AIM to
differentiate them from SID's.

And, although SID's do provide obstacle clearance, that may not necessarily
be their primary purpose.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

Ron Rosenfeld wrote in
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On 29 May 2004 23:24:50 GMT, Stan Gosnell me@work wrote:

(Teacherjh) wrote in
:

Please forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is ODP?

Obstacle Departure Procedure.

Seems to me that's redundant. The purpose of a departure
procedure is to provide obstacle clearance.

Perhaps, but that's the nomenclature used by the FAA in the AIM to
differentiate them from SID's.

And, although SID's do provide obstacle clearance, that may not
necessarily be their primary purpose.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)



OK, so why do you think the distinction is so important in the context of
an IPC?

On 01 Jun 2004 02:34:11 GMT, Andrew Sarangan wrote:

OK, so why do you think the distinction is so important in the context of
an IPC?

Look at the differences. They are pretty clear in the AIM.

For one thing, SID's are explicitly assigned by ATC. So when they are
assigned, the instrument pilot has an immediate heads-up as to how to fly.

For Part 91 flights, ODP's may not be explicitly assigned, and are optional
for the pilot (if not assigned)! They do NOT require ATC clearance (or
even require that you inform ATC if you choose to fly the ODP). You may
have to review the chart to even know that there is an ODP (or non-standard
departure minima).

And, most importantly, there have been a number of accidents due to pilots
not flying a published ODP that was their option to fly.




Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)