Radio talk in the UK

Its amazing in this day and age that telegraphic CW abbreviations (QNH &
QFE) are still being used instead of normal words. I guess it must just be
RT double talk.

In uk.rec.aviation beaudoin wrote:
: Its amazing in this day and age that telegraphic CW abbreviations (QNH &
: QFE) are still being used instead of normal words. I guess it must just be
: RT double talk.

"QNH" uses a bit less air time than "mean sea level pressure". I guess
one could argue that the use of "altimeter" across the other side of
the pond is a good use of "normal words", but as we use QFE and a
number of regional pressure settings as well, having short phrases to
differentiate between subscale settings is useful. Sure, we could come
up with words to replace the CW abbreviations but it would surely only
be change for the sake of change.

At least we don't have to phonetically spell out the
abbreviations. What is the queenie nan how today anway? :-)

And besides QNF is completely unnecessary if flying. If one cannot fly
without QNF, one cannot fly. QNF only serves to complicate things.

beaudoin wrote:

And besides QNF is completely unnecessary if flying.

QNF? What the hell should that be?

Stefan

It is used in practice. I have used it in Morocco. Americans should
appreciate the freedom we have in flying. Flying outside of the US is a
chore. In Morocco, I have had to file an international flight plan for a 9
nautical mile flight. Utterly stupid. International flight plans are not
the simple flight plan we use here in the US either.

In article , cn8cg wrote
It is used in practice. I have used it in Morocco.

What is?

Americans should
appreciate the freedom we have in flying. Flying outside of the US is a
chore. In Morocco, I have had to file an international flight plan for a 9
nautical mile flight. Utterly stupid. International flight plans are not
the simple flight plan we use here in the US either.

You may not have noticed, but Morocco isn't the whole of the
non-American world.

--
Richard Herring

The link, obviously, was disconnected. You are commenting on something you
may not have complete knowledge of. QFE is what was being discussed. In my
comment, Morocco was noted as the most stupid of the flight plan requirement
made by many countries. My flight experience is not limited to that
country. I know well that Morocco isn't the whole of the non-American
world. Nor is the UK, asshole.
"Richard Herring" wrote in message
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In article , cn8cg wrote
It is used in practice. I have used it in Morocco.

What is?

Americans should
appreciate the freedom we have in flying. Flying outside of the US is a
chore. In Morocco, I have had to file an international flight plan for a
9
nautical mile flight. Utterly stupid. International flight plans are not
the simple flight plan we use here in the US either.

You may not have noticed, but Morocco isn't the whole of the
non-American world.

--
Richard Herring

In article , beaudoin
wrote
"Richard Herring" wrote in message
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In article , cn8cg wrote
It is used in practice. I have used it in Morocco.

What is?

Americans should
appreciate the freedom we have in flying. Flying outside of the US is a
chore. In Morocco, I have had to file an international flight plan for a
9
nautical mile flight. Utterly stupid. International flight plans are not
the simple flight plan we use here in the US either.

You may not have noticed, but Morocco isn't the whole of the
non-American world.

The link, obviously, was disconnected.

"The link"?

You are commenting on something you
may not have complete knowledge of.

Yes. That's why normal newsgroup practice is to quote enough of the
message to which you're replying to establish a context, and to put your
replies after what you quote. Otherwise people don't know what you're
talking about.

QFE is what was being discussed.

Glad to hear it.

In my
comment, Morocco was noted as the most stupid of the flight plan requirement
made by many countries. My flight experience is not limited to that
country. I know well that Morocco isn't the whole of the non-American
world.

Glad to hear that too. From here it looked remarkably like hasty
generalisation.

Nor is the UK, asshole.

Who mentioned the UK?

--
Richard Herring

"Richard Herring" wrote in message
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In article , beaudoin
wrote


Glad to hear that too. From here it looked remarkably like hasty
generalisation.

Nor is the UK, asshole.

Who mentioned the UK?


May I say, Richard, that I think you are being far politer than the OP
deserves.

Ali

"Ali Hopkins" wrote in message
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"Richard Herring" wrote in message
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In article , beaudoin
wrote


Glad to hear that too. From here it looked remarkably like hasty
generalisation.

Nor is the UK, asshole.

Who mentioned the UK?


May I say, Richard, that I think you are being far politer than the OP
deserves.

Ali

true and he must be an asshole to be able to recognise one too.