Radio talk in the UK

On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 18:29:50 +0000, Richard Herring
wrote:

In article , beaudoin
wrote
"Richard Herring" wrote in message
...
In article , cn8cg wrote
It is used in practice. I have used it in Morocco.

What is?

Americans should
appreciate the freedom we have in flying. Flying outside of the US
is a
chore. In Morocco, I have had to file an international flight plan
for a
9
nautical mile flight. Utterly stupid. International flight plans are
not
the simple flight plan we use here in the US either.

You may not have noticed, but Morocco isn't the whole of the
non-American world.

The link, obviously, was disconnected.

"The link"?

The "Link" was to what you asked "What is?" too, in other words, QFE/QHN.


You are commenting on something you
may not have complete knowledge of.

Yes. That's why normal newsgroup practice is to quote enough of the
message to which you're replying to establish a context, and to put your
replies after what you quote. Otherwise people don't know what you're
talking about.

QFE is what was being discussed.

Glad to hear it.

In my
comment, Morocco was noted as the most stupid of the flight plan
requirement
made by many countries. My flight experience is not limited to that
country. I know well that Morocco isn't the whole of the non-American
world.

Glad to hear that too. From here it looked remarkably like hasty
generalisation.

Nor is the UK, asshole.

Who mentioned the UK?


Sorry Richard, but (whilst "asshole" is uncalled for in our newsgroup) you
did deserve a strong response to your rather terse post. I followed what
he was talking about. The thread is crossposted to rec.aviation.misc, so
he was talking about how lucky the yanks are and was giving an example of
how difficult aviation can be in other parts of the world.

For Beaudoin, please don't use bad language to insult people on our (uk)
newsgroup. Whilst we don't mind the odd four-letter word in chit-chat, is
it quite unacceptable to use them to insult people. The reaction can be
worse than the reason you insulted them in the first place.



Ben.

--

....And so as the little andrex puppy of time scampers onto the busy
dual-carriage way of destiny, and the extra-strong meat vindaloo of fate
confronts the toilet Out Of Order sign of eternity... I see it is time to
end this post.

In article , B S D Chapman
wrote
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 18:29:50 +0000, Richard Herring
wrote:

In article , beaudoin
wrote
"Richard Herring" wrote in message
...
In article , cn8cg wrote
It is used in practice. I have used it in Morocco.

What is?

Americans should
appreciate the freedom we have in flying. Flying outside of the

is a
chore. In Morocco, I have had to file an international flight

for a
9
nautical mile flight. Utterly stupid. International flight plans

not
the simple flight plan we use here in the US either.

You may not have noticed, but Morocco isn't the whole of the
non-American world.

The link, obviously, was disconnected.

"The link"?

The "Link" was to what you asked "What is?" too, in other words, QFE/QHN.

Ah, you mean a reference to a previous Usenet article. Links are what
you find on web pages. As for what it was really about, read on...


You are commenting on something you
may not have complete knowledge of.

Yes. That's why normal newsgroup practice is to quote enough of the
message to which you're replying to establish a context, and to put
your replies after what you quote. Otherwise people don't know what
you're talking about.

QFE is what was being discussed.

Glad to hear it.

(In fact, having refetched the article I see it was actually QNF. See
why it's worth retaining enough of the original text to establish
context?)


In my
comment, Morocco was noted as the most stupid of the flight plan
requirement
made by many countries. My flight experience is not limited to that
country. I know well that Morocco isn't the whole of the non-American
world.

Glad to hear that too. From here it looked remarkably like hasty
generalisation.

Nor is the UK, asshole.

Who mentioned the UK?


Sorry Richard, but (whilst "asshole" is uncalled for in our newsgroup)
you did deserve a strong response to your rather terse post.

My post was making a point about his even terser post, which was
context-free.

I followed what he was talking about.

Did you work out how it was related to the use of QNF?

The thread is crossposted to rec.aviation.misc, so he was talking about
how lucky the yanks are and was giving an example of how difficult
aviation can be in other parts of the world.

One example scarcely proves the blanket statement "Flying outside of the
US is a chore".

For Beaudoin, please don't use bad language to insult people on our
(uk) newsgroup. Whilst we don't mind the odd four-letter word in
chit-chat, is it quite unacceptable to use them to insult people. The
reaction can be worse than the reason you insulted them in the first
place.

To haul this thread back to somewhere near the original topic, has
anyone here ever used QNE?

--
Richard Herring

I have on CW but not voice. It is inapproprite when speaking.

"beaudoin" wrote in message
...
I have on CW but not voice. It is inapproprite when speaking.



I do wish you would quote properly.

Ali

In article , beaudoin
wrote

quoting no context whatsoever,

I have on CW but not voice.

On the assumption that you're talking about QNE, what were the
circumstances? Likewise, if it should happen to be QNF.

I have this vision of someone in a 152 with a big brass Morse key
strapped to his leg, frantically trying to "read" back a clearance at 12
wpm.

It is inapproprite when speaking.

The spoken use of "QFE" and "QNH" is required in the UK at least,
according to CAP 413.

--
Richard Herring

quoting no context whatsoever

I do not quote any context whatsoever.

Are your knickers in a twist?

"beaudoin" wrote in message
...
quoting no context whatsoever

I do not quote any context whatsoever.


Precisely; thus we have no idea to what you are responding, and the posts
make little sense.

Ali

In article , beaudoin
wrote
quoting no context whatsoever

I do not quote any context whatsoever.

You just did. See, it's not so hard if you try.

Now, are you going to answer my question?

--
Richard Herring

I didn't quote it. I wrote/typed it in.
If you can't tell who I am answering, just look at the where the post fits
in the chronology.
Isn't this much easier to read rather than with all the other jibberish.

I have a Cessna 152 (N714WQ) but don't have a strap on leg key for Morse.
Morse is archaiac and we don't need to use archaiac Morse abbreviations any
longer. Speak English d.... it. Dah di dah.