Ethanol Mandate for Iowa?

Unprecedented is a touch strong. Katrina sent crude up all of $5 per
barrel to $70. It has back to $65.82. From May, 2005 to September, 2005,
crude went from $50 to $65 per barrel.

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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

Which, of course, was written before the unprecedented run-up in
prices
since Hurricane Katrina.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Unprecedented is a touch strong. Katrina sent crude up all of $5 per
barrel to $70. It has back to $65.82. From May, 2005 to September, 2005,
crude went from $50 to $65 per barrel.

Really? Isn't it funny (sad?) that the gas stations around here used
Katrina as an excuse to increase prices by 90%?
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

C'mon Jay, "disaster for many of us?" I doubt a dollar per gallon increase
would stop you from flying. Most folks are still flying even with the
dramatic increases in AvGas prices from just a few years ago. Any aircraft
owner with a financial buffer that thin won't be one for very long (or at
least have an airworthy aircraft).

Really? I meet (and know) plenty of owners who fly on a shoe-string
budget. That's what "grass-roots" aviation is all about.

These are the guys who own C-140s, C-150s, Ercoupes and any of a wide
assortment of GA planes that cost less than $20,000. To them, fuel is
THE single most important factor, and their highest cost of ownership.


If the State increases their cost $10 - $15 per hour by mandating
ethanol it will certainly tip the odds against them.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Even with the $20,000 and below purchase prices, they still have to maintain
them. What happens when they have to get a muffler rebuilt or need a $200
gascolator? You're saying that an extra $10 an hour will ground them
financially. If they fly 40 hours a year, then a $400 repair (let's say a
$300 part + labor) will ground them for the ENTIRE YEAR.

Is that really true or am I missing something here?

Marco Leon

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Really? I meet (and know) plenty of owners who fly on a shoe-string
budget. That's what "grass-roots" aviation is all about.

These are the guys who own C-140s, C-150s, Ercoupes and any of a wide
assortment of GA planes that cost less than $20,000. To them, fuel is
THE single most important factor, and their highest cost of ownership.


If the State increases their cost $10 - $15 per hour by mandating
ethanol it will certainly tip the odds against them.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"




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Even with the $20,000 and below purchase prices, they still have to
maintain
them. What happens when they have to get a muffler rebuilt or need a $200
gascolator? You're saying that an extra $10 an hour will ground them
financially. If they fly 40 hours a year, then a $400 repair (let's say a
$300 part + labor) will ground them for the ENTIRE YEAR.

I don't know any viable (healthy) owners who fly just 40 hours per year.
And an awful lot of these folks maintain their own planes.

I know a fair number of pilots who probably don't spend $3000 per year on
flying, total. Yet they fly every weekend.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

The governor is just going with the votes. There are more folks growing
corn for ethanol than flying GA in Iowa. Ethanol is the ultimate
political boondoggle as it costs more BTUs to manufacture than it
provides.

One of those have your cake and eat it things. No ethanol, no Iowa as
the farmers claim they need ethanol to prosper and make Iowa a "good"
place to live and work.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:b3c_e.369489$x96.190155@attbi_s72...
Today Rep. Jim Nussle -- potentially the future governor of Iowa --
was reported as proposing that all gasoline sold in Iowa be required
to contain 20% ethanol additive. Presumably, this legislation, if
passed, would make the sale of regular unleaded gasoline illegal in
Iowa.

sfb wrote:
political boondoggle as it costs more BTUs to manufacture than it
provides.

Oh. I didn't know that.


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"Jay Masino" wrote in message
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sfb wrote:
political boondoggle as it costs more BTUs to manufacture than it
provides.

Oh. I didn't know that.



That would be because there are equally impressive studies that show a 35
percent energy GAIN after growing and distilling.

And still others that show that the same energy required to produce 1 BTU of
Gasoline Energy, will produce as much as 8 BTU of ethanol energy, and that
it is *gasoline* which is inefficient to produce, by comparison.

http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_energy.html

So take your pick as to which religion to believe.

Icebound wrote:
That would be because there are equally impressive studies that show a 35
percent energy GAIN after growing and distilling.

And still others that show that the same energy required to produce 1 BTU of
Gasoline Energy, will produce as much as 8 BTU of ethanol energy, and that
it is *gasoline* which is inefficient to produce, by comparison.

http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_energy.html

So take your pick as to which religion to believe.


Well... I'll atleast hope that you're facts are the correct ones!

--- Jay



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sfb wrote:

Ethanol is the ultimate
political boondoggle as it costs more BTUs to manufacture than it
provides.

But you don't have to use petroleum to provide those BTUs; consequently, it does
reduce dependence on foreign oil, and it does pollute less than petrol.

George Patterson
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