buy or rent a 2006 182

On May 25, 7:32 pm, "Dan Luke" wrote:
"Montblack" wrote:
Not sure what your mission is, but:

http://www.ionaircraft.com/
Have considered the ION? g

Cool looking bird, but I need a long range IFR cruiser.

--
Dan
? at BFM
Dan

If you are looking for a long range IFR plane, you might want to look
at the Diamond Star DA-40. For the price of a 2006 182 you could
definitely get anything you want in the used DA-40 market. There are
11 of them on Controller listing from $140s to $200. I rented a couple
of DA-40s and was pretty impressed. I really liked the handling and
the visibility (seemed a lot more responsive than the SR-20), and they
move pretty fast for a 180hp fixed gear plane. When it is time to sell
the warbird, I'll deifnitely give them a consideration. Having flown
both recent 182s and DA-40s, unless I needed the lifting capacity of
the 182, I'd be tempted to go with the more fun plane to fly.

http://www.controller.com/listings/f...949231BCEF393B

Eric Bartsch
1959 Pilatus P-3 A-848

wrote:

\ If you are looking for a long range IFR plane, you might want to look
at the Diamond Star DA-40. For the price of a 2006 182 you could
definitely get anything you want in the used DA-40 market.


Nice plane, but IFR range and useful load are inadequate.

--
Dan
? at BFM

Dan Luke wrote:


Nice plane, but IFR range and useful load are inadequate.


Personally, for long range crusing I would want something faster
than a 182.

"kontiki" wrote:

Nice plane, but IFR range and useful load are inadequate.


Personally, for long range crusing I would want something faster
than a 182.

Who wouldn't?

New 182s aren't too shabby, though. The one at the flight school will cruise
145+ KTAS. Put that together with the 'Lane's good useful load and excellent
short field performance and you have a pretty dandy all-around airplane.

Anyway, the OP was about cost comparison, so I used apples-to-apples. If I do
buy another airplane, there are other possibilities.

--
Dan
? at BFM

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"Dan Luke" wrote:

"john smith" wrote:

Dan Luke wrote:
Renter's ins., $1M smooth $3,185 (?)

I only pay about $750/year with AVEMCO for $1M renters insurance.

What hull value does that cover?

$30k

Dan Luke wrote:

New 182s aren't too shabby, though. The one at the flight school will cruise
145+ KTAS. Put that together with the 'Lane's good useful load and excellent
short field performance and you have a pretty dandy all-around airplane.

Well for 300+ thousand dollars it ought to 145kts.

Anyway, the OP was about cost comparison, so I used apples-to-apples. If I do
buy another airplane, there are other possibilities.


My point was that for the kind of money you are talking about I could
by cruising at 165kts at the same or less fuel burn, and still have
enough money left to by a lot of Avgas.

"john smith" wrote:


Dan Luke wrote:
Renter's ins., $1M smooth $3,185 (?)

I only pay about $750/year with AVEMCO for $1M renters insurance.

What hull value does that cover?

$30k

That wouldn't help much if I crumped a $300K bird.

I'll call my agent Tuesday and see what it would cost to cover that much.

--
Dan
? at BFM

"kontiki" wrote:


My point was that for the kind of money you are talking about I could
by cruising at 165kts at the same or less fuel burn, and still have
enough money left to by a lot of Avgas.

Yes, in a considerably older airplane with older avionics, higher maintenance
costs, etc. If it was a retractable, insurance would be more, too.

Nevertheless, speed is good. I like Bo's, and very nice ones can be had for
$300K.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

Dan Luke wrote:



Yes, in a considerably older airplane with older avionics, higher maintenance
costs, etc. If it was a retractable, insurance would be more, too.


I don't know about that... insurance on my Comanche is $1700 per year.
To insure the hull on a 2000ish 182 couldn't be any cheaper. My plane
is simple to work on (1950's technology) and has been very reliable.
I am able to do a lot of the maintenance myself.

Granted an advantage of the 182 is ease of getting in and out compared
to most retracts. But beyond that it flies like a truck, is slow and
burns a lot of fuel. I have hundreds of hours in 182s so I am not
just speaking second hand.

Nevertheless, speed is good. I like Bo's, and very nice ones can be had for
$300K.


You can even find good ones for 100K less. But hey... if you have
the bucks I say go for it. Bo's are good airplanes, albeit expensive
to maintain.

On 2007-05-25 09:08:26 -0700, "Dan Luke" said:

Since it looks very much like I will be sans airplane in a week or so, I've
been kicking around options for future flying.

The major reason for owning a plane is convenience. It never seems that
there is a rental plane available when you want one.


--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor