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Old October 3rd 11, 08:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On 4/10/2011 3:56 a.m., Quaalude wrote:
Hani Hanjour, the pilot of Flight 77, was so incompetent he could not
fly a Cessna in August, but in September managed to fly a 767 at
excessive speed into a spiraling, 270-degree descent and a level impact
of the first floor of the Pentagon, on the only side that was virtually
empty and had been hardened to withstand a terrorist attack, merely
demonstrates that people can do almost anything once they set their
minds to it.

(Un)True?


He was a rated Commercial Pilot...
That means he had well over 300 hours PIC.
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Old October 3rd 11, 08:52 PM
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W każdym domu najważniejszą rolę pełni oświetlenie. To ono pozwala przyrządzić przestrzeń idealną do relaksu, zabawy, spotkań z przyjaciółmi. Trafnie dobrane oświetlenie nada wnętrzom nastrojowego klimatu, natomiast dodatkowo optycznie je powiększy. W naszym sklepie znajdziecie rozmaite lampy i dodatki oświetleniowe. Nasze produkty skierowane są do osób, które oczekują zaskakującego efektu światła. Własny wybór obejmuje również oświetlenie do dużego pokoju, pokoju dziecięcego, kiedy zaś aż do łazienki. Wprost przeciwnie przy nas znajdziecie lampy podłogowe, ścienne, sufitowe zaś stołowe. Wszystkie wyróżniają się wysoką jakością wykonania, nietuzinkowym stylem a oryginalnymi formami. Z powodu temu doskonale komponują się spośród wnętrzami urządzonymi w różnych stylach. Oferujemy lampy tradycyjne tudzież nader nowoczesne, klasyczne oraz sowicie zdobione, w szerokiej gamie kolorystycznej. W zależności odkąd oczekiwań tudzież potrzeb, możecie selekcjonować modele dające ciepłe zaś rozproszone światło, lub takie, które zapewniają dobre oświetlenie ogólne bądź punktowe. Możecie sięgnąć po lampy wykonane spośród papieru czerpanego, glin, ze stali bądź szkła. Dostarczamy również niezbędne dodatki oświetleniowe. Dajemy wam ogrom możliwości na oryginalne dekorowanie przestrzeni, w których funkcjonujecie na co doba.
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Old October 3rd 11, 11:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article , Tom
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 13:36:54 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

In article , Tom
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:38:35 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

Hanjour

The instructors at the airfield in Maryland said, "It was like he had
hardly even ever driven a car. He could not fly at all."

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/04/us...ompetence.html


And yet, Orval Fairbairn asks us to believe that Hanjour pulled off a
stunt that would press the limits of even the most experienced aviation
test pilot.


First of all, if that maneuver would "press the limits of even the most
experienced test pilot," I would have to question both his experience
and expertise.


This is out of your league, Fairbairn, plain and simple. You're a proven
quagmirist know-it-nothing with an overblown ego and a peanut head for a
brain.

"No-one cares what you "believe", just as your beliefs about weather and
climate have been clearly shown to be ridiculous - negating any
comment you wish to make on other areas of climate science."

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.global-warming/v_Z7jYtLlsI

"If I can be bothered to show you the facts, the least you can do is to
bother to reply, before you try to spread more crap."

Your "expertise" extends to never building an LSA with a measly 80hp
Jabiru P.O.S.

Stick your head back inside Mary's drums where comfort awaits you.


OK, Sonny. You claim to be an "aeronautical engineer." I became one
probably before you were out of diapers and have been involved with
airplane, missiles and space systems for the last 50 years.

You must have flunked basic aerodynamics and certainly pilot training.

No, I haven't built an LSA, but have restored (and still flying a real
postwar classic that i have been flying for the last 40 years. plus, I
got my private in 1960 and have been flying ever since.

The kookbabble that you spew has zero basis in reality.

BTW -- my experience with data processing in the missile field tells me
that the global warmists are nothing but a bunch of charlatans who
misuse advanced data processing techniques.
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Old October 3rd 11, 11:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article , Tom
wrote:

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:40:19 +0000 (UTC), Edward A. Falk wrote:

In article , Tom wrote:
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:38:35 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

And yet, Orval Fairbairn asks us to believe that Hanjour pulled off a
stunt that would press the limits of even the most experienced aviation
test pilot.


Given a few days practice in Microsoft Flight Simulator, *anybody*
could do it.


Brother, you got some catching it up to do.

Not only is it implausible, it's impossible.

Start he
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do......58033&hl=en

And end he

http://citizeninvestigationteam.com/nsa.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o (if vimeo gives you problems)

Supplemental FAQ:

http://citizeninvestigationteam.com/...plane_hit.html

You have to imagine them coming out of that turn, flying tree top level,
being able to see or know where the Pentagon is miles away at the
bottom of a ridge, treeline, highways, and a high-rise skyline- and
then be able to miss the VDOT tower or fly above it, then drop down
threading itself through 5 light poles, while missing the VDOT camera
mast next to pole 1 and then fly low and level just a few feet above
the lawn, skimming on it's belly into the first floor. That on it's
face is implausible, the above evidence based presentations show it is
IMPOSSIBLE.

Hani wasn't piloting that plane. eom


The Pentagon is a pretty big (and recognizable) place -- especially on a
severe clear day from an aircraft. TRIVIAL TASK.
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Old October 4th 11, 12:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Responding to nut jobs in _ANY_ way give the nut what he wants.

It is the reason that this group is all but dead and gone, from the last nut
in here.

Please, everyone, let them babble. Most of us know the difference, and
those that do not won't be influenced by reason or facts.

-- Jim in NC

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Old October 4th 11, 04:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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wrote:
Babbling nut case.


Could be Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posting to r.a.p.
:-)
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Old October 4th 11, 04:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Tom wrote:
*LOLOLOLOL*


No no no - now THIS is hilarious:

http://www.theonion.com/video/911-co...da-says,14222/
 




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