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Old October 5th 19, 12:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Can only CFIs teach flying?

Is it legal for non-CFIs to instruct others to fly?
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Old October 5th 19, 12:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 7:23:24 PM UTC-4, jp wrote:
Is it legal for non-CFIs to instruct others to fly?


You have to define 'instruct.'
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Old October 5th 19, 01:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Of course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQGFLxadGiM
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Old October 5th 19, 01:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I taught my wife to fly and I'm not, and don't want to be, a CFI.

Can she get a license based upon my instruction?Â* No.Â* Can she fly the
airplane and the glider?Â* Yes.Â* She does not want to do takeoffs and
landings, but since she took instruction up to solo with a CFI and a
CFI-G, I have no doubt she can get us on the ground if necessary.

On 10/4/2019 5:56 PM, wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 7:23:24 PM UTC-4, jp wrote:
Is it legal for non-CFIs to instruct others to fly?

You have to define 'instruct.'


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Old October 5th 19, 01:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Can only CFIs teach flying?

On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 4:23:24 PM UTC-7, jp wrote:
Is it legal for non-CFIs to instruct others to fly?


The answer is, it depends on the level of training and whether the "student" needs to log instruction:

(all answers are for the USA)

1. If a pilot is rated and wants to get "instruction" in cross country, or another aspect of soaring, then the "instructor" does not need to be rated, and the "student" simply logs PIC time.

2. If there is a regulatory requirement to log training time, then most times the one providing instruction must be a CFI.

3. If the one receiving loggable instruction is not able to act as PIC (out of currency or not rated) then the instructor must be a CFI.

4. If a student rated pilot has another person in the glider, that person can only be a CFI. Anyone else would constitute a passenger that is prohibited for the Student Pilot.

Mike B. (CFI, CFII, MEI, CFI-G and former DPE for all of that)
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Old October 5th 19, 02:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Burt Compton - Marfa Gliders, west Texas
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Read Mike's post twice! Right on.

Over the decades as a CFI in gliders and airplanes, I have spent many ground and flight hours "undoing" some very poor skills and serious misunderstandings regarding the aeronautical knowledge of many student pilots as well as airplane rated transition to glider pilots who were "taught" by non-CFI's..

Certificated Flight Instructors carefully plan their ground and flight lessons and develop an "economy of words" for the topics they teach because this first bit of learning is usually what many pilots will revert to in times of stress, and that stress is often felt during a typical aerotow and landing.

This is the "Law of Primacy."

As a Designated Pilot Examiner I've seen dangerously large landing patterns, too much reference to the instruments, not clearing turns or not looking outside for other aircraft or reading the sky for clues regarding lift and sink. The worst is any pilot encountering sink in the landing pattern or the drop from a wind gradient on short final and pulling back on the stick (pitching up) in both scenarios! Yikes!

In teaching beginning cross-country soaring I've see poor thermaling technique, inability to "read the sky"and "inaccurate" accuracy landings -- essential skills for XC and why I offer a "Rusty Pilot" course and also encourage / conduct the Bronze Badge test.



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Old October 5th 19, 03:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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There is one common, required logbook endorsement unique to the soaring community that doesn't have to be issued by an instructor. Do any glider only rated pilots know what it is?

DT
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Old October 5th 19, 05:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Can only CFIs teach flying?

On Saturday, October 5, 2019 at 3:56:29 PM UTC+13, wrote:
There is one common, required logbook endorsement unique to the soaring community that doesn't have to be issued by an instructor. Do any glider only rated pilots know what it is?


There is the DI duplicate control check, but that's in the aircraft's logbook, not the pilot's.
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Old October 5th 19, 08:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Can only CFIs teach flying?

On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 10:56:29 PM UTC-4, wrote:
There is one common, required logbook endorsement unique to the soaring community that doesn't have to be issued by an instructor. Do any glider only rated pilots know what it is?

DT


Tow endorsement
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Old October 5th 19, 02:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 7:23:24 PM UTC-4, jp wrote:
Is it legal for non-CFIs to instruct others to fly?


If you are a captain flying part 121 YES YOU CAN
 




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