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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Future military fighters and guns - yes or no ? From: "Puppinator" Date: 3/2/04 7:04 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Just out of curiousity...what EXPERIENCE do you have working/flying the A-10? Or do you just quote from Janes and/or CNN. Pup USAF, Retired Brooks never flew anything. He never fired a shot in anger or saw an enemy. Take that into consideration. But I did not have to be threatened with the draft in order to volunteer for the service I have provided, unlike you. Nor did I volunteer during a period where had I failed to I would have been labled a shirker, as was the case when you served; quite the opposite, I actually was sworn in during a time when being in the military was not quite as well thought of as it is now. Nor am I compelled to make up things in a vain effort to make myself feel important, like you habitually do. Finally, I address the queries raised to me, unlike you. So just what the heck are you so proud of, Art? Brooks Arthur Kramer |
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Subject: Future military fighters and guns - yes or no ?
From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/2/04 11:09 AM Pacific Never flew an A-10, obviously. You never flew anything. That's the bottom line right? Never fought anyone and never experienced combat right? Not much left for you is there? Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Future military fighters and guns - yes or no ? From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/2/04 11:14 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Future military fighters and guns - yes or no ? From: "Puppinator" Date: 3/2/04 7:04 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Just out of curiousity...what EXPERIENCE do you have working/flying the A-10? Or do you just quote from Janes and/or CNN. Pup USAF, Retired Brooks never flew anything. He never fired a shot in anger or saw an enemy. Take that into consideration. But I did not have to be threatened with the draft in order to volunteer for the service I have provided, unlike you. Nor did I volunteer during a period where had I failed to I would have been labled a shirker, as was the case when you served; quite the opposite, I actually was sworn in during a time when being in the military was not quite as well thought of as it is now. Nor am I compelled to make up things in a vain effort to make myself feel important, like you habitually do. Finally, I address the queries raised to me, unlike you. So just what the heck are you so proud of, Art? Brooks All the fun and games I was having at 10,000 feet over Germany. So you say. Based upon the lack of persoanl integrity you have demonstrated thus far, it is kind of hard to know how much of your "exploits" are real and how much is your imagination in overdrive. You see, that is the problem when you start lying--after you get caught in them, nobody knows which further statements of yours are fact and which are fiction. And also attending funerals of friends many of whom still lie in foreign soil One wonders why you continue to sneer at my one and only example of having served on duty in Ohio (which for some reason you are fascinated with, can't figure out why), where we performed a similar military funeral. Never saw you there coward. Oh, gee, maybe that was because I was not born until a bit over fifteen years AFTER the war was over? Your rants are growing more pathetic... How was the flak behind a desk in Ohio? Again (and I realize that your mind may not be what it once was), I never served behind a desk in Ohio, OK? Simple concept--even you should be able to grasp it with enough effort. Again, what is this fixation you have with Ohio? Did some airman from Ohio knock you on your keister when you gave him some of your oh-so-mean 19 year old butter-bar lip? Is that why you are always drawn back to trying to connect someone who has the temerity to disagree with you, or to call you on your repeated false statements, with the Buckeye State? You could have volunteered for a combat unit. I did not have to. My first active duty assignment was to a combat unit (the 19th Engineer battalion (Combat) (Corps) (Wheeled); Company B to be exact--ran into my old CO years later when he evaluated our unit during a training exercise). Finished that one up and moved to a construction unit. Then to a bridge construction unit. Etc. etc. Weren't you the guy who claimed folks in the military had to do what and go where they are told? How come you never did coward? Being as I did serve in a couple of combat units, that is an irrational statement. You are the bottom of he barrel of the military. You are entitled to your opinion. But that does not change the fact that you remain a proven liar. Brooks Arthur Kramer |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Future military fighters and guns - yes or no ? From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/2/04 11:09 AM Pacific Never flew an A-10, obviously. You never flew anything. That's the bottom line right? Never fought anyone and never experienced combat right? Not much left for you is there? Nope. Never flew other than as a passenger. And that would be important because...? Not a bit ashamed of my service, and unlike you I have never had to resort to making things up in order to bolster my own self-image. That you have to do that is kind of sad, really--one would think you did enough to be proud of your service without having to go to such extremes. But, since we can't really place any trust in your claims, maybe you have reason for fabricating material that you feel better reflects on you. Brooks Arthur Kramer |
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Subject: Future military fighters and guns - yes or no ?
From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/2/04 12:06 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Future military fighters and guns - yes or no ? From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/2/04 11:09 AM Pacific Never flew an A-10, obviously. You never flew anything. That's the bottom line right? Never fought anyone and never experienced combat right? Not much left for you is there? Nope. Never flew other than as a passenger. And that would be important because...? Not a bit ashamed of my service, and unlike you I have never had to resort to making things up in order to bolster my own self-image. That you have to do that is kind of sad, really--one would think you did enough to be proud of your service without having to go to such extremes. But, since we can't really place any trust in your claims, maybe you have reason for fabricating material that you feel better reflects on you. Brooks Arthur Kramer comes down to the same thing There are those of us who fought and those who didn't. You have a a lot to answer for. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Future military fighters and guns - yes or no ? From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/2/04 12:06 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Future military fighters and guns - yes or no ? From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/2/04 11:09 AM Pacific Never flew an A-10, obviously. You never flew anything. That's the bottom line right? Never fought anyone and never experienced combat right? Not much left for you is there? Nope. Never flew other than as a passenger. And that would be important because...? Not a bit ashamed of my service, and unlike you I have never had to resort to making things up in order to bolster my own self-image. That you have to do that is kind of sad, really--one would think you did enough to be proud of your service without having to go to such extremes. But, since we can't really place any trust in your claims, maybe you have reason for fabricating material that you feel better reflects on you. Brooks Arthur Kramer comes down to the same thing There are those of us who fought and those who didn't. You have a a lot to answer for. No, Art only one of us has repeatedly refused to answer the questions posed to him (even though they were specifically requested to be put forward), and that would be you. Other posters have noted your refusal to address your record of falsehoods, so I don't know who you are trying to mislead. Brooks Arthur Kramer |
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Subject: Future military fighters and guns - yes or no ?
From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/2/04 12:02 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Future military fighters and guns - yes or no ? From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/2/04 11:14 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Future military fighters and guns - yes or no ? From: "Puppinator" Date: 3/2/04 7:04 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Just out of curiousity...what EXPERIENCE do you have working/flying the A-10? Or do you just quote from Janes and/or CNN. Pup USAF, Retired Brooks never flew anything. He never fired a shot in anger or saw an enemy. Take that into consideration. But I did not have to be threatened with the draft in order to volunteer for the service I have provided, unlike you. Nor did I volunteer during a period where had I failed to I would have been labled a shirker, as was the case when you served; quite the opposite, I actually was sworn in during a time when being in the military was not quite as well thought of as it is now. Nor am I compelled to make up things in a vain effort to make myself feel important, like you habitually do. Finally, I address the queries raised to me, unlike you. So just what the heck are you so proud of, Art? Brooks All the fun and games I was having at 10,000 feet over Germany. So you say. Based upon the lack of persoanl integrity you have demonstrated thus far, it is kind of hard to know how much of your "exploits" are real and how much is your imagination in overdrive. You see, that is the problem when you start lying--after you get caught in them, nobody knows which further statements of yours are fact and which are fiction. And also attending funerals of friends many of whom still lie in foreign soil One wonders why you continue to sneer at my one and only example of having served on duty in Ohio (which for some reason you are fascinated with, can't figure out why), where we performed a similar military funeral. Never saw you there coward. Oh, gee, maybe that was because I was not born until a bit over fifteen years AFTER the war was over? Your rants are growing more pathetic... How was the flak behind a desk in Ohio? Again (and I realize that your mind may not be what it once was), I never served behind a desk in Ohio, OK? Simple concept--even you should be able to grasp it with enough effort. Again, what is this fixation you have with Ohio? Did some airman from Ohio knock you on your keister when you gave him some of your oh-so-mean 19 year old butter-bar lip? Is that why you are always drawn back to trying to connect someone who has the temerity to disagree with you, or to call you on your repeated false statements, with the Buckeye State? You could have volunteered for a combat unit. I did not have to. My first active duty assignment was to a combat unit (the 19th Engineer battalion (Combat) (Corps) (Wheeled); Company B to be exact--ran into my old CO years later when he evaluated our unit during a training exercise). Finished that one up and moved to a construction unit. Then to a bridge construction unit. Etc. etc. Weren't you the guy who claimed folks in the military had to do what and go where they are told? How come you never did coward? Being as I did serve in a couple of combat units, that is an irrational statement. You are the bottom of he barrel of the military. You are entitled to your opinion. But that does not change the fact that you remain a proven liar. Brooks Arthur Kramer So you claim but you have proven nothing. And those of us who went into harms way for our country have nothing to answer for ever. But you who never volunteered for any combat duty have everything to answer for. Coward. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Subject: Future military fighters and guns - yes or no ?
From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/2/04 12:33 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Future military fighters and guns - yes or no ? From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/2/04 12:06 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Future military fighters and guns - yes or no ? From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/2/04 11:09 AM Pacific Never flew an A-10, obviously. You never flew anything. That's the bottom line right? Never fought anyone and never experienced combat right? Not much left for you is there? Nope. Never flew other than as a passenger. And that would be important because...? Not a bit ashamed of my service, and unlike you I have never had to resort to making things up in order to bolster my own self-image. That you have to do that is kind of sad, really--one would think you did enough to be proud of your service without having to go to such extremes. But, since we can't really place any trust in your claims, maybe you have reason for fabricating material that you feel better reflects on you. Brooks Arthur Kramer comes down to the same thing There are those of us who fought and those who didn't. You have a a lot to answer for. No, Art only one of us has repeatedly refused to answer the questions posed to him (even though they were specifically requested to be put forward), and that would be you. Other posters have noted your refusal to address your record of falsehoods, so I don't know who you are trying to mislead. Brooks Arthur Kramer The questions are stupid and without any merit whatever as is your pathetic military reocrd. And those of us who fought have nothing to answer for to cowardly wannabees. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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In message , ArtKramr
writes comes down to the same thing There are those of us who fought and those who didn't. No, Art. There are those who fought: those who trained and were ready, but weren't called: those who would have enlisted and fought if called: and those who would refuse. You have a a lot to answer for. In that case so do I, but I'm not sure why. (Wore uniform, took the Queen's shilling, and now advise and support the frontline. Not my fault they haven't had a war that they wanted me for combat duty in.) -- When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite. W S Churchill Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk |
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