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Old June 21st 04, 04:33 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Yes. It's defined in law. It's been defined in law for centuries. The
OED echoes that definition. The State determines what specific killings
are illegal. For a killing to be murder, the victim must be human, the
killing must have been intentional, it must have been premeditated, and it
must be illegal. The State defines what is murder and what is not.


So no State has ever defined murder to include the intentional dismemberment
of a fetus to be murder? So what's the big deal with Roe-v-Wade then?


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Old June 21st 04, 04:52 PM
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California, as usual, provides a perfect example of the hypocrisy in this
issue...

Look at the Scott Peterson case: he is charged with two counts of murder;
one in the death of his pregnant wife, a second in the death of the fetus.

But, in California, it is perfectly legal to abort a fetus, so a murder
charge would not be levied against an abortion provider...



"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Yes. It's defined in law. It's been defined in law for centuries. The
OED echoes that definition. The State determines what specific killings
are illegal. For a killing to be murder, the victim must be human, the
killing must have been intentional, it must have been premeditated, and

it
must be illegal. The State defines what is murder and what is not.


So no State has ever defined murder to include the intentional

dismemberment
of a fetus to be murder? So what's the big deal with Roe-v-Wade then?




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Old June 21st 04, 05:47 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

So no State has ever defined murder to include the intentional dismemberment
of a fetus to be murder? So what's the big deal with Roe-v-Wade then?


Some States did at one time. Roe-v-Wade invalidated all of those laws.

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.
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Old June 21st 04, 05:53 PM
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Some States did at one time. Roe-v-Wade invalidated all of those laws.


Then murder is NOT a legal definition made by the State.


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Old June 21st 04, 06:00 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Some States did at one time. Roe-v-Wade invalidated all of those laws.


Then murder is NOT a legal definition made by the State.


YES IT IS. Countries are States.

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.
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Old June 21st 04, 06:10 PM
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EDR wrote in
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This coming from an anonymous poster...


You may need to meet a hot lonely girl with your cheapest viagra on the net
but but I do not (for simpletons read: SpAm).. You got something to say to
me .. say it here...

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Old June 21st 04, 06:19 PM
Doug
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Oh, you mean like the 150+ executions that occurred in Texas while the
current US president was governor of that state?
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150 individuals found GUILTY of a CAPITOL crime by a JURY of their PEERS
that invoked the LAW as PASSED by the PEOPLE which sent them to their
DEATH...

Damn glad a Govenor actually did the peoples will, I watched a comedian on
last night and he had a Texas bit that went something like....theres a sign
when you drive into texas with a guy in a Electric Chair and the caption
sayd "y'all dont **** up now.. ya hear!"..

while it was a joke it was a strong statement to those that want to commit
crimes in The Great State of Texas... they will deal with you!!.. instead
they goto California or NY where liberals will hug you for your murderous
and vilolent ways, Lord knows it couldn't be your fault....Public hangings
will go a long way! ;-)



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Old June 21st 04, 06:20 PM
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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YES IT IS. Countries are States.


So murder in the US is a federal crime? It's outside the jurisdiction of
the States?


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Old June 21st 04, 06:48 PM
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The overwhelming majority of abortions are murder.


Some isn't all. Even "most" isn't all. And all is is.

Jose


Holy crap Bill Clinton posts in this group... a new definition of what
'is' is


Read carefully. It's actually a definition of "all".

Jose

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