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More likely we have had our fill of foul mouthed people. You know it IS possible to make a point without personal attacks and vulgarity. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired But not as much fun.... j +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ampmeter, Apparently you have not read Boss Bernie's tome on... "fun". Masturbation appears to be more publicly acceptable to him, unless.... you consider it - MORE FUN. Barnyard BOb -- Master Baiter |
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 20:03:02 -0500, Barnyard BOb --
wrote: More likely we have had our fill of foul mouthed people. You know it IS possible to make a point without personal attacks and vulgarity. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired But not as much fun.... j +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ampmeter, Apparently you have not read Boss Bernie's tome on... "fun". Masturbation appears to be more publicly acceptable to him, unless.... you consider it - MORE FUN. Barnyard BOb -- Master Baiter I did notice that Bernie seems to want to bring everything down to the basics... "ass licking" may be one of his favorite activities since he mentions it so much. A few years ago, my wife made the mistake of asking her admin assistant what he did over the weekend. Needless to say, she learned that sometimes you DON'T want to know some things... she didn't understand what he said and asked further... she learned what "rimming" was... I'll stop here.. don't want to offend any sensitive folks, ya know... John |
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Tnx for the back ground on BWB. I spent two years compiling, evaluating and briefing Commander SAC monthly on SAC combat readiness. Also sat on Battle Staff in underground Command Post during exercises and advanced states of alert. Never heard of this guy BWB. My ex RO worked on the SIOP. I'll drop him a letter and see if he heard of the guy also. The SIOP programmed sufficient weapons on a target to assure it's destruction for those not with a SAC or Military back ground. It also prevented expending to many wepons on a single target, ie Navy and/or Air Force. Big John Point of the sword On 4 Aug 2003 17:09:39 -0700, wrote: In article , Bernie says... snip He will point out repeatedly.. ad naseum that he is a PHD in nuclear physics and it is soley because of him that America sleeps safely at night. He will rub his accomplishments and money into everyones and anyones nose with delight and point out repeatedly that HE had more time at the top of the loop than YOU have in the loop. Not real physics, his PhD was astrophysics, which is physics without experiments. His "big deal" paper was on midcourse correction for ballistic missiles by having the warheads take sightings of stars, decreasing the CEP by 10. That made a first strike more likely to succeed (it wouldn't help a retaliatory strike, the other side's silos would be empty by then) so it changed Soviet docrine from launch on impact to launch on warning. |
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You are one of the "unwashed" Hey, I bathed just last summer. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired |
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On 04 Aug 2003 06:25 PM, Big John posted the following:
Sydney and some of the other ladies on the 'group' haven't commented but I doubt if they appreciate his kind of behavior. That is the sort of understatement that is only possible when one doesn't know the rest of the story. I respectfully suggest you go to the google archive if you wish to research Bill's vendetta against Sydney, since no good can come of dredging it all up here in the newsgroup again. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
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Nobody would give a damn if I were to drop dead tonight,
You underrate yourself, dear. There would be a very nice party. BWB would be burned in effigy and everyone would have a lovely time. |
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Big John wrote:
Pacplyer I have 'plonked' BWB but all of 'you' keep including his filth in your posts back to him. Have you ever used the insert "----clip----"? I'm sure he knows what he wrote so you telling him back in your reply is redundant. Big John, Pac sez: Your points are valid John and I apologize to all for my cargo dog language, and for reposting the same by responding to same. But Usenet is the wild, wild west of the internet and it may just happen again. Sorry in advance when I, or others cuss up a storm about something we feel passionate about. :-\ All, I look at RAH just like a busy intercity freeway. People who are anonymous in their automobiles do things they never would consider doing to others face to face in a social setting. They flip the bird when they get cut off, and then, they swerve with no blinkers in front of a slow vehicle in the fast lane to get even. Again, that's not how these people act when they get out of their automobiles. That's not how they act to those they know, or have just met at the store. I don't attack them at the filling station to get even. No harm, no foul. RAH is identical in almost every way except one: No structure, other than the regular's sharp reprisals exist to put a wild driver into question. When a Charlatan gets exposed, he usually fires a parting shot and leaves. Or when a person has no depth of character, or nothing memorable to say he usually seeks an anonymous cloak and nit-picks the others about being off-topic, uncivil, or turns into a spellchecker. :-( That's life on the freeway: you have great drivers and then you have Helen Keller. Granted, in this analogy, BWB is nothing less than the terminator in a runaway Peterbuilt. If we can just re-program his prime directive, we would have one hell of a writer on our hands again. Be patient. It's either that or we'll just have to kill him. ;-) (mass injections of Muzzleloader come to mind. But save some for me, I have yet to sample this fine sounding cure-all.) Now for my pet peeve about all of you: I do not accept the on-topic/off-topic outlook many of you have for RAH. It is not a place in cyberspace confined only to the demands of newbies that want free homebuilding information. RAH is our home, and I consider all of you my friends. I've been reading you for years and I feel as if I know all of you. Yes even that "Alpha Hotel" I had to flame the other day! :-# As long as RAH remains 100% unmoderated, I will enjoy it and hang out here. :-) Back to net-rage. On the real road, the state maintains a hugely expensive police force to stop this behavior, but it doesn't put a dent in the road rage problem. All it does is fill up donut shops with cops who, understandably, don't want to deal with it. We have a lot of road rage at RAH. With total freedom of expression in play, and a large population of people driving around with fake license plates, feathers are going to get ruffled. But tolerating a bunch of Netcops in our presence is not the answer. Instead of dictating or trying to change all of your behavior... Maybe, if for example: I developed a little thicker skin when someone said I was full of Methane, I could just accept him/her for what she/he is: a ****ing moron... whoops: withdrawn! (hey, lawyers get away with that!) strike that from the record; I meant: a different mentally developed individual than myself. ;-) Someone (perhaps a colleague,) once alluded that, my posts "didn't ring true." If I'd of have a thicker skin, maybe I wouldn't have felt compelled to flame his sorry ass to the ground... but boy, I must confess, he deserved it and it sure felt Gooooood! I have since kinda regretted it (But the ******* asked for it, right?) O.K, O.K. it was wrong. But Ladies and Gentlemen, RAH is GA, and GA IS inherently dangerous. We just lost two pilots in experimentals in our area last month. If you can't suffer a little criticism or overlook the faults of professional pilots and builders with experience, then you don't belong in the sky. pacplyer - out |
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BWB never touched a Nuc weapon. They had programs that screened out kooks like him. Big John Point of the sword On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 20:03:02 -0500, Barnyard BOb -- wrote: More likely we have had our fill of foul mouthed people. You know it IS possible to make a point without personal attacks and vulgarity. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired But not as much fun.... j +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ampmeter, Apparently you have not read Boss Bernie's tome on... "fun". Masturbation appears to be more publicly acceptable to him, unless.... you consider it - MORE FUN. Barnyard BOb -- Master Baiter |
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pac plyer wrote:
I look at RAH just like a busy intercity freeway. People who are anonymous in their automobiles do things they never would consider doing to others face to face in a social setting. They flip the bird when they get cut off, and then, they swerve with no blinkers in front of a slow vehicle in the fast lane to get even. Again, that's not how these people act when they get out of their automobiles. That's not how they act to those they know, or have just met at the store. I don't attack them at the filling station to get even. No harm, no foul. Pac, with respect, I think this analogy is flawed. The function of an intercity highway is to move people and goods from Point A to Point B. No interpersonal relationships between cars are necessary, no additional functions exist which depend upon civil interpersonal relations. Someone flips you the bird, you drive on. Probably, no harm no foul, although, yes indeedy flip off the wrong driver and he may just follow you into the gas station and clean your clock, or just shoot you -- it's happened. My favorite is the Massachusetts crossbow incident but I digress. The function of a newsgroup is to exchange information. As such, it functions more like a small town or a local community than a "busy intercity freeway". People need to get to know whose advice is generally sound and what other people's personal tics are. Some meet IRL and break bread together. The topics of conversations may vary, and a certain amount of off-topic stuff is inevitable, but some kind of social compact is necessary for the group to be able to serve its intended function. You allude to this yourself. What happens if a neighbor or coworker gets in his automobile and starts behaving as you describe -- "getting even", flipping the bird, yelling profanities in the parking lot? Around here at least, it wouldn't be tolerated. It's disruptive of good professional relationships if it's a coworker who behaves like a total d*ckh**d to you in the parking lot then expects you to give him your best help on Monday, and it's dangerous to the kids if it's in the neighborhood. Yes harm Yes foul. In a small town, people like that get a "talking to" if that doesn't suffice there's an "intervention" and they get toted off to the local head-shrinker. By their friends and supporters. RAH is identical in almost every way except one: No structure, other than the regular's sharp reprisals exist to put a wild driver into question. The latter is true, but I think your analogy does break down at the former. Unlike an anonymous intercity highway, the newsgroup has a function which necessarily depends upon people being able to interact. What happens after an EAA meeting when people are mingling in small groups some shooting the bull and some talking technical, if someone is continually running from group to group screaming general profanities and prolonged repeated abuse at specific people? Wouldn't that be seen as disruptive and unacceptable? Suppose they happened to have gobs of experience flying and building, well, what good does it do anyone if instead of sharing it, they spend all their time and energy picking fights and being disruptive? Other experienced people are unable to share their experience or get disgusted by the atmosphere and leave. My point is, and perhaps I mistake you, you seem to be on the one hand pointing out that there's no mechanism to edit content other than the "social compact" as it were -- individual choice to either post a "sharp reprisal" or to refuse to associate with an individual by killfiling them, and the sum of such individual choices. And you're right. But, on the other hand, you seem to be criticizing Dan and "Big John" for pretty much doing as you say -- making a "sharp reprisal" against some stuff they don't like. If it's a "free newsgroup" where anything goes, aren't you playing "Netcop" yourself by critiquing them? Why is it OK for one guy to mouth off as he chooses, but not OK for anyone who responds disapprovingly, they get told off for trying to be a "net cop" and directed to a moderated newsgroup? Aren't they just exercising the very mechanism you tout here -- the "sharp reprisal"? Now granted I'm galactically stupid and all that, so maybe you just need to explain the difference to me since I don't see it. Use small words and talk slowly. Granted, in this analogy, BWB is nothing less than the terminator in a runaway Peterbuilt. If we can just re-program his prime directive, we would have one hell of a writer on our hands again. Be patient. Bill made some great posts Once Upon a Time. Like, more than 4 years ago. It seems pretty clear to me he's no longer willing or able to do so. Just how much "reckless driving" does your community tolerate from someone who used to be a contributing citizen? Do you believe in fairy tales? Back to net-rage. On the real road, the state maintains a hugely expensive police force to stop this behavior, but it doesn't put a dent in the road rage problem. Actually, on the real road, people are to some extent restrained by the knowledge that the person they flip the bird and cut off just might follow them into the nearest filling station and whip their ass. Or, might be their bosses' or neighbor's wife. I think there's a word for people who make nicey-nice to someone's face when they meet in person, then trash that same person endlessly when they're safe behind a computer and out of reach of a good right hook or a sidekick to the kneecap. But I digress again. But Ladies and Gentlemen, RAH is GA, and GA IS inherently dangerous. We just lost two pilots in experimentals in our area last month. If you can't suffer a little criticism or overlook the faults of professional pilots and builders with experience, then you don't belong in the sky. Oh, I can suffer a *little* criticism, heh heh. I can even suffer serious criticism provided it has some factual basis. I can also overlook the faults of real professional pilots and builders with real experience. I think most people here can do so. What's that got to do with endless mindless abuse and personal vendettas? OK, that's my $0.02 I'll sit down and shut up again now. Sydney |
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