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Maybe GWB isn't lying.......
The media and most democrats charge President Bush lied to the American
people and led us into a war over oil. Even if you disregard GWB 1 and the war re Kuwait, in any attempt to be fair, you have to take these quotes into consideration: "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 "Iraq is a long way from [the USA], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998 "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998 "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001 "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep. - Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002 "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 Now who's lying? |
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Then there's this from President 'wanna be' Wes Clark. He was certain Saddam
had weapons of mass destruction and that Saddam wanted more. "[Saddam Hussein]…is not only malevolent and violent, but also unpredictable. He retains his chemical and biological warfare capabilities and is actively pursuing nuclear capabilities…. Saddam Hussein's current retention of chemical and biological weapons and their respective delivery systems violates the UN resolutions themselves, which carry the weight of international law….. Our President has emphasized the urgency of eliminating these weapons and weapons programs. I strongly support his efforts to encourage the United Nations to act on this problem. And in taking this to the United Nations, the President's clear determination to act if the United Nations can't provides strong leverage undergirding further diplomatic efforts…. I would offer the following considerations: - The United States diplomacy in the United Nations will be further strengthened if the Congress can adopt a resolution expressing US determination to act if the United Nations will not. The use of force must remain a US option under active consideration. The resolution need not at this point authorize the use of force, but simply agree on the intent to authorize the use of force, if other measures fail…. If efforts to resolve the problem by using the United Nations fail, either initially or ultimately, the US should form the broadest possible coalition, including its NATO allies and the North Atlantic Council if possible, to bring force to bear." Statement Of General (Retired) Wesley K. Clark U.S. Army Before The House Armed Services Committee United States House Of Representatives September 26, 2002 Ed "The French couldn't hate us any more unless we helped 'em out in another war." --Will Rogers (Delete text after dot com for e-mail reply.) |
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Funny thing about quoting everybody in the world who ever thought Iraq might
have WMD's, they were all too smart to use it as an excuse for going to war. Only George made that mistake. War is too important, too big a step, to enter into without being sure and honest with the people of the country. Bush either lied or did not insure his information was correct. Either fault in a president cannot be excused and he must go. I supported the war and still think it was the right thing to do. And I voted for Bush in 2000. But the contempt with which he held the people and the brave men and women of the military in taking them to war over a false reason makes him just another low life politician. And that is saying nothing about his disasterous domestic policy. |
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In article ,
"Rick Folkers" wrote: Funny thing about quoting everybody in the world who ever thought Iraq might have WMD's, they were all too smart to use it as an excuse for going to war. Only George made that mistake. If that had been the only (or even the main) reason for going to war, you might have a point. It's a shame the US government presented *several* reasons for going in, especially since the anti-war folks have latched onto that one reason while forgetting all of the others... -- cirby at cfl.rr.com Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations. Slam on brakes accordingly. |
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Note that I did not say it was the only reason. But, my forgetful friend,
it was the reason Bush used to sell it to the people and Congress to get his supporing legislation. Can you really deny that? "Chad Irby" wrote in message . .. In article , "Rick Folkers" wrote: Funny thing about quoting everybody in the world who ever thought Iraq might have WMD's, they were all too smart to use it as an excuse for going to war. Only George made that mistake. If that had been the only (or even the main) reason for going to war, you might have a point. It's a shame the US government presented *several* reasons for going in, especially since the anti-war folks have latched onto that one reason while forgetting all of the others... -- cirby at cfl.rr.com Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations. Slam on brakes accordingly. |
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Subject: Maybe GWB isn't lying.......
From: "Rick Folkers" Date: 2/1/2004 4:23 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: ...[T]he contempt with which he held the people and the brave men and women of the military in taking them to war over a false reason makes him just another low life politician. An odd thing about politicians. When Clinton was in office and he came to the Pentagon to make a speech, the brass had to force people to attend. That was NOT the case with either Bush (41) or Bush (43). The troop like President Bush. Period. Ed "The French couldn't hate us any more unless we helped 'em out in another war." --Will Rogers (Delete text after dot com for e-mail reply.) |
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Too bad he does not support them better.
"RobbelothE" wrote in message ... Subject: Maybe GWB isn't lying....... From: "Rick Folkers" Date: 2/1/2004 4:23 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: ...[T]he contempt with which he held the people and the brave men and women of the military in taking them to war over a false reason makes him just another low life politician. An odd thing about politicians. When Clinton was in office and he came to the Pentagon to make a speech, the brass had to force people to attend. That was NOT the case with either Bush (41) or Bush (43). The troop like President Bush. Period. Ed "The French couldn't hate us any more unless we helped 'em out in another war." --Will Rogers (Delete text after dot com for e-mail reply.) |
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You are seriously Wrong, he does a great job supporting us!
You couldn't be further from the Truth. But everytime he shows support, people like you spin it up into a "political statement for his re-election" what a bucket of **** you lay. Speaking of Clinton, every Navy unit I was in despised him and we hoped to God he never payed us a visit. Just like the whole WMD arguement you are trying to debate now! The original Poster of this thread hit the nail on the head. Nobody has that kind of power, including the President. What, you can't make up your own mind? Did he hypnotize you into believing what he (and everyone else) was saying about Saddams possesion of WMD's? I guess he just hypnotized every Democrat and media agent into beleiving it too! LOL, get a clue, this thing ain't over yet. Your kind also bashed Pres. Bush daily about "his" inability to find Saddam, like it was him personally out there searching for him! hahaha! Then, when we did find him, you spun it all up into a bucket of **** about how "inhumane" he was treated, and how much better the Iraqi people would be with him still in power. And nobody gloated, just were very satisfied and showed pleasure at him being caught, and brought to justice. So what will your kind say when we catch Bin Laden? What will you say when we find the evidence Saddam had WMD's and destroyed and moved them because he was scared about getting attacked and overthrown? Don't you think that military force worked? What the hell are you thinking? That we will threaten him with scorched earth if he doesn't comply with the worlds laws, and then not act? people like you On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 20:58:38 -0600, "Rick Folkers" wrote: Too bad he does not support them better. "RobbelothE" wrote in message ... Subject: Maybe GWB isn't lying....... From: "Rick Folkers" Date: 2/1/2004 4:23 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: ...[T]he contempt with which he held the people and the brave men and women of the military in taking them to war over a false reason makes him just another low life politician. An odd thing about politicians. When Clinton was in office and he came to the Pentagon to make a speech, the brass had to force people to attend. That was NOT the case with either Bush (41) or Bush (43). The troop like President Bush. Period. Ed "The French couldn't hate us any more unless we helped 'em out in another war." --Will Rogers (Delete text after dot com for e-mail reply.) |
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Your ignorant acceptance of his BS really lets the country and the
military down. His greatest insult to the country and military was starting a war over a lie or, at best, something he was dead wrong on. We deserve to die for the truth, at least. Keep living in your dream world. "fudog50" wrote in message ... You are seriously Wrong, he does a great job supporting us! You couldn't be further from the Truth. But everytime he shows support, people like you spin it up into a "political statement for his re-election" what a bucket of **** you lay. Speaking of Clinton, every Navy unit I was in despised him and we hoped to God he never payed us a visit. Just like the whole WMD arguement you are trying to debate now! The original Poster of this thread hit the nail on the head. Nobody has that kind of power, including the President. What, you can't make up your own mind? Did he hypnotize you into believing what he (and everyone else) was saying about Saddams possesion of WMD's? I guess he just hypnotized every Democrat and media agent into beleiving it too! LOL, get a clue, this thing ain't over yet. Your kind also bashed Pres. Bush daily about "his" inability to find Saddam, like it was him personally out there searching for him! hahaha! Then, when we did find him, you spun it all up into a bucket of **** about how "inhumane" he was treated, and how much better the Iraqi people would be with him still in power. And nobody gloated, just were very satisfied and showed pleasure at him being caught, and brought to justice. So what will your kind say when we catch Bin Laden? What will you say when we find the evidence Saddam had WMD's and destroyed and moved them because he was scared about getting attacked and overthrown? Don't you think that military force worked? What the hell are you thinking? That we will threaten him with scorched earth if he doesn't comply with the worlds laws, and then not act? people like you On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 20:58:38 -0600, "Rick Folkers" wrote: Too bad he does not support them better. "RobbelothE" wrote in message ... Subject: Maybe GWB isn't lying....... From: "Rick Folkers" Date: 2/1/2004 4:23 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: ...[T]he contempt with which he held the people and the brave men and women of the military in taking them to war over a false reason makes him just another low life politician. An odd thing about politicians. When Clinton was in office and he came to the Pentagon to make a speech, the brass had to force people to attend. That was NOT the case with either Bush (41) or Bush (43). The troop like President Bush. Period. Ed "The French couldn't hate us any more unless we helped 'em out in another war." --Will Rogers (Delete text after dot com for e-mail reply.) |
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