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PJ Hunt wrote: This statute applies to commercial operations. So you CAN go alone or take your friends, as long as you don't charge them or receive a reward, and land in all the fields you want without prior permission from the 'commission. Of course you would want to approve it with the land owner first. Rich asked for a definition of "approved". That's what Gig provided. The section he quoted does prohibit commercial operations, but no claim has been made that that's the entire law in New Jersey. Perhaps "zatatime" can provide a reference to the statute that prohibits other operations? George Patterson The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise. |
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So all this bitching going on the last few years over GA losing its
rights out East and all along this was on the books? Cry me a river. zatatime wrote: On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:32:57 -0600, "Gig Giacona" wrote: 6:1-43 No aircraft or airman shall utilize, land, or take off from any area of land or water, unless that area is licensed for such activity, or found and declared by the commissioner to be vital or necessary for avigation purposes. Thanks. z |
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We have a guy here that has a 1500 pound thing he hangs from his
Jetranger each Christmas. It is Santa in his sleigh and a couple of reindeer. There's about a thousand lights being run from the generator bungied to the skids. He flies without any lights on the copter and the route is published in the paper on Dec 23 each year. His whole flight takes him a couple hours. Judah wrote: zatatime wrote in : snip I used to know a helicopter pilot who flew Santa in and out of a small field in town, Cool! I didn't realize Santa had a Chauffer. I guess as the world gets more and more populated, the Reindeer just don't cut it anymore... |
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Drew Dalgleish wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 02:26:01 GMT, "Mike Rapoport" wrote: "zatatime" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 00:19:40 GMT, "Blueskies" wrote: A 'proper license' should not be too hard to come by. How do you get one? Again, I do not have the specific documentation, but in a nutshell, if it's for private use, you need to adhere to all the State DOT regs pertaining to Private Use Airports. If it's for public use, you need to comply with those requirements, i.e. Airport Safety Zone, 7 to 1 glide ratio to a certain distance away from the runway, lighting as applicable, etc... I know someone who did this for a heliport in Northern NJ, it took quite a while, and cost a bunch of money. HTH. z Here in ID, your runway has to be 2000' from the nearest neighbor to get approval for a new airstrip. In practice, this takes quite a bit of land, hundreds of acres. Mike MU-2 Wow sucks to be you guys. In Canada we can pretty much land and take off wherever we please Just because not enough people want to live in Canada to provide neighbors within 2000 feet is no reason to get arrogant! :-) Matt |
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zatatime wrote: On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:32:57 -0600, "Gig Giacona" wrote: 6:1-43 No aircraft or airman shall utilize, land, or take off from any area of land or water, unless that area is licensed for such activity, or found and declared by the commissioner to be vital or necessary for avigation purposes. You've cut out the part that says this applies only to fields "operated exclusively by and for government". George Patterson The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise. |
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G.R. Patterson III wrote: wrote: But maybe I need to read it again 2-3 more times. Probably. You seem to have missed the words "operated exclusively by and for government" in that section. I saw the preceding word "or" just fine. The bottom line is most likely to be found in the exceptions "as provided for by the provisions of this chapter and the rules, regulations and orders adopted pursuant to this chapter," which one supposes could exempt private property used with the owners permission, or not. -- FF |
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2004, C Kingsbury wrote:
"Drew Dalgleish" wrote in message ... Wow sucks to be you guys. In Canada we can pretty much land and take off wherever we please Benefits of having a country the size of the lower 48 but the population of New York. Bigger than the lower 48, actually, by a fair bit. Only Russia is bigger, by land area... (even after the USSR spun off the Ukraine, the 'stans, and stuff, Russia is still bigger!) Brian. www.warbard.ca/avgas/index.html |
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 22:19:42 GMT, "G.R. Patterson III"
wrote: PJ Hunt wrote: This statute applies to commercial operations. So you CAN go alone or take your friends, as long as you don't charge them or receive a reward, and land in all the fields you want without prior permission from the 'commission. Of course you would want to approve it with the land owner first. Rich asked for a definition of "approved". That's what Gig provided. The section he quoted does prohibit commercial operations, but no claim has been made that that's the entire law in New Jersey. Perhaps "zatatime" can provide a reference to the statute that prohibits other operations? George Patterson The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise. This is snipped from what was posted and seems to me to cover the issue. No aircraft or airman shall utilize, land, or take off from any area of land or water, unless that area is licensed for such activity, or found and declared by the commissioner to be vital or necessary for avigation purposes. If this does not cover the issue, I'll try to find time to call the State DOT for clarification of what statute applies. I only know from practical knowledge that it is not allowed. HTH. z |
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