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"James M. Knox" wrote in message It's not entirely clear yet exactly how all this could translate for those pursuing a regular PP-ASEL. For example, could you do all your training in a Zodiac certificated under Light Sport but still get a regular PP ticket? In case my previous post is confusing, I'll try to make this a bit more orderly. 1. Ultralight. Time in an ultralight can be logged and used toward a sport pilot certificate.The ultralight would not need to be classed as a light-sport aircraft. 20 hours of logged ultralight time with proper instruction would make the pilot eligible for a sport pilot certificate. Ultralight time cannot however be used for a higher rating than sport pilot. This would make most current ultralight pilots eligible for a sport pilot certificate with only a little ground school and an instructor's endorsement. 2. Sport pilot. You can receive a sport pilot certificate with 20 hours flight time. With 150 logged hours and 100 hours as pilot in command, you can apply for a flight instructor certificate with sport pilot rating; this is not the same as a regular instructor certificate. This is basically a sport pilot with an instructor rating; and this instructor can only give instruction for sport pilot. The distinction is that this instructor could have 100 hours in an ultralight counting as part of his hours and only needs 50 hours in a regular aircraft. 3. Higher ratings. All logged time and instruction for sport pilot is credited to higher ratings. 4. You should be able to obtain a private pilot certificate in a light-sport aircraft (like a Zodiac) if the instructor has a regular instructor rating and not merely a sport pilot instructor rating. Because the pilot has a rating higher than sport pilot, the aircraft is counted the same as a certified aircraft. 5. A private pilot certificate encompasses sport pilot; so, the holder of a private pilot's license is already qualified for everything in sport pilot except as regards specific type ratings. For example, to fly a powered chute, the private pilot would still need instruction for a powered chute and a logbook endorsement from reviewer who was not the instructor. This is basically the same as is currently done for sailplanes, lighter than air, and hot air balloons. The new regulations simply add weight shift and powered chutes as distinct types. Similarly, a regular instructors rating encompasses the sport pilot instructors rating. Regular instructors can give instruction for sport pilots without any additional requirement other than a minimum of 5 hours logged pilot in command time in the specific make and model used for instruction. |
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"Brent Rehmel" I don't believe you are allowed to do instruction in an experimental, \ You can, for example buy a homebuilt, them hire an instructor to give you dual in your homebuilt. -- Jim in NC |
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"Morgans" wrote in message You can, for example buy a homebuilt, them hire an instructor to give you dual in your homebuilt. Okay, that's what I thought. A flight school couldn't use one. This is quite a difference because flight schools will be able to use light-sport aircraft. |
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"Brent Rehmel" wrote
I don't believe you are allowed to do instruction in an experimental, but even if you can, this wouldn't be practical anyway since a flight school would have to asemble 51% of each aircraft. As an instructor you can instruct in your own homebuilt with an EAA exemption... but not primary instruction. Check out "Experimental Aircraft Rentals": http://www.avweb.com/news/homeblts/182021-1.html Eric |
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But.... A sport pilot certificate is only for a particular model of sport
aircraft. If I get a SP Cert for a Zenith 601XL I can't go fly a Zenith 701 though both should qualify under SP. "Brent Rehmel" wrote in message et... "Eric Miller" wrote in message The proposed regs as written are still somewhat vague about the ATP weight-shift category and class... Maybe no one meets the MINIMUM weight requirements! =D It doesn't really matter since current ultralights count as time for a sport-pilot certificate. So, this should encompass everything now flying. |
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"Gig Giacona" wrote in message ... But.... A sport pilot certificate is only for a particular model of sport aircraft. If I get a SP Cert for a Zenith 601XL I can't go fly a Zenith 701 though both should qualify under SP. You can fly the 701 by simply getting a check-out and endorsement in it once you have a SP license. This is similar to getting a tail-wheel endorsement on your PPL after you have been flying 152/172 for your entire career. Rick Pellicciotti |
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"James M. Knox" wrote in message:
I asked Phil Boyer what he thought of it, namely would it help attract new pilots. He said essentially no, he expected pretty close to zero (and admittedly any is better than none) new pilots. What he *did* expect, and was pleased with, was an increase in the total number of active pilots from passage of SLA. These would come from returning pilots who had lost their medical, plus additional retention of the older pilot population as they keep flying longer. As you say, we'll see. ----------------------------------------------- James M. Knox TriSoft ph 512-385-0316 1109-A Shady Lane fax 512-366-4331 Austin, Tx 78721 ----------------------------------------------- Keep in mind that AOPA and EAA are very competitive over the Sport Pilot initiative. EAA views it as “their” concept and are positioning themselves to take full credit for lobbying for and obtaining all of the perceived benefits, while emphasizing to their membership that AOPA, in comparison, has done little to advance the whole idea. At the same time, AOPA views the concept as mostly benefiting ultralight pilots – a segment of the pilot community that AOPA has traditionally shunned. The only benefit AOPA sees is the driver’s license medical, which AOPA tried to extend to the Recreational Pilot certificate and failed to do so. So it is not surprising to hear Phil Boyer making statements that downplay the Sport Pilot rule, except for the part that he has lobbied for. |
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"Bryan Martin" wrote in message ... in article , James M. Knox at wrote on 9/22/03 9:38 AM: For example, could you do all your training in a Zodiac certificated under Light Sport but still get a regular PP ticket? Not without a night flight restriction. Bryan, what are you talking about; what night flight restriction? There is no night flight restriction when a pilot with a private pilots license or higher gets into a light-sport aircraft. That restriction only applies when the pilot in command has a sport pilot certificate. We are assuming that the intructor is a regular instructor and not a sport pilot instructor; if the instructor were sport pilot then the night restriction would apply. |
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