Fierce battles in Najab, Helicopter lost. Heavy casualties.

Will we ever get Iraq under control the way we did Germany and Japan.? Rumsfeld
must go.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote

Will we ever get Iraq under control the way we did Germany and Japan.? Rumsfeld
must go.

What is your justification for constantly trashing this newsgroup?

Is there someone you are trying to communicate with? Some tribe or something?

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Will we ever get Iraq under control the way we did Germany and Japan.?
Rumsfeld
must go.



I wonder what you would have said in 1943 about someone posting letters to
the editor like the ones you now post...

Subject: Fierce battles in Najab, Helicopter lost. Heavy casualties.
From: "L'acrobat"
Date: 8/12/2004 9:27 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:



ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
Will we ever get Iraq under control the way we did Germany and Japan.?
Rumsfeld
must go.



I wonder what you would have said in 1943 about someone posting letters to
the editor like the ones you now post...



No need. We knew how to fight WW II.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Fierce battles in Najab, Helicopter lost. Heavy casualties.
From: "L'acrobat"
Date: 8/12/2004 9:27 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:



ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
Will we ever get Iraq under control the way we did Germany and Japan.?
Rumsfeld
must go.



I wonder what you would have said in 1943 about someone posting letters
to
the editor like the ones you now post...



No need. We knew how to fight WW II.

Rather than rattle your jaw about a subject you obviously have no real
knowledge of, you might take time to actually read a bit about the OIF
campaign. Tommy Frank's new book, "American Soldier", is at your local
bookstore now, and includes an inside view of how the operation was planned
and executed...but I doubt you'd bother with reading it or any other
reputable account of the campaign--that would make it harder for you to
belittle the efforts and sacrifices of those that fought it, wouldn't it?

Brooks



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Subject: Fierce battles in Najab, Helicopter lost. Heavy casualties.
From: "Kevin Brooks"
Date: 8/13/2004 7:03 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:


"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Fierce battles in Najab, Helicopter lost. Heavy casualties.
From: "L'acrobat"
Date: 8/12/2004 9:27 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:



ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
Will we ever get Iraq under control the way we did Germany and Japan.?
Rumsfeld
must go.



I wonder what you would have said in 1943 about someone posting letters
to
the editor like the ones you now post...



No need. We knew how to fight WW II.

Rather than rattle your jaw about a subject you obviously have no real
knowledge of, you might take time to actually read a bit about the OIF
campaign. Tommy Frank's new book, "American Soldier", is at your local
bookstore now, and includes an inside view of how the operation was planned
and executed...but I doubt you'd bother with reading it or any other
reputable account of the campaign--that would make it harder for you to
belittle the efforts and sacrifices of those that fought it, wouldn't it?

Brooks



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer




There are those who go to war. Then there are those who only read about war.
And never the twain shall meet. Read your books. Cherish your dreams and
fantasies. But don't confuse your dreams and fantasies with the reality of war.
They are not the same. Or even close.




Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
Subject: Fierce battles in Najab, Helicopter lost. Heavy casualties.
From: "Kevin Brooks"
Date: 8/13/2004 7:03 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:


"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
Subject: Fierce battles in Najab, Helicopter lost. Heavy
casualties.
From: "L'acrobat"
Date: 8/12/2004 9:27 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:



ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
Will we ever get Iraq under control the way we did Germany and
Japan.?
Rumsfeld
must go.



I wonder what you would have said in 1943 about someone posting
letters
to
the editor like the ones you now post...



No need. We knew how to fight WW II.

Rather than rattle your jaw about a subject you obviously have no real
knowledge of, you might take time to actually read a bit about the OIF
campaign. Tommy Frank's new book, "American Soldier", is at your local
bookstore now, and includes an inside view of how the operation was
planned
and executed...but I doubt you'd bother with reading it or any other
reputable account of the campaign--that would make it harder for you to
belittle the efforts and sacrifices of those that fought it, wouldn't it?

Brooks



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer




There are those who go to war. Then there are those who only read about
war.
And never the twain shall meet. Read your books. Cherish your dreams and
fantasies. But don't confuse your dreams and fantasies with the reality of
war.
They are not the same. Or even close.

Yo, Shmedlap--you must have missed the fact that Franks fought in three wars
to your one, and was the commander of CENTCOM during both OIF and OEF. So
are you calling him the fellow who "only reads about war"? Unlike your hero
Kerry, he actually got a *real* PH for wounds received. He wrote the book I
referenced towards your edification--but you think you know more than he
does, eh? Figures. You must truly be getting senile...

Brooks





Arthur Kramer

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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There are those who go to war. Then there are those who only read about
war.
And never the twain shall meet. Read your books. Cherish your dreams and
fantasies. But don't confuse your dreams and fantasies with the reality of
war.
They are not the same. Or even close.


The perfect demonstration of why you are ignorant on any military subject
outside your own limited field.

Professionals read history.

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Fierce battles in Najab, Helicopter lost. Heavy casualties.
From: "L'acrobat"
Date: 8/12/2004 9:27 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:



ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
Will we ever get Iraq under control the way we did Germany and Japan.?
Rumsfeld
must go.



I wonder what you would have said in 1943 about someone posting letters to
the editor like the ones you now post...



No need. We knew how to fight WW II.



You are avoiding the question Art.

We all know you'd be ranting incessantly about traitors and backstabbers
sabotaging the countries war effort.

yet still you post.

From: "L'acrobat"
Date: 8/13/2004 6:12 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:


"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...



There are those who go to war. Then there are those who only read about
war.
And never the twain shall meet. Read your books. Cherish your dreams and
fantasies. But don't confuse your dreams and fantasies with the reality of
war.
They are not the same. Or even close.


The perfect demonstration of why you are ignorant on any military subject
outside your own limited field.

Professionals read history.

More importantly a true professional LEARNS from history and knows how to apply
those lessons.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired