Jay - You guys under water?

On Jun 16, 9:12 am, rotor&wing rotorampwing.
wrote:[color=blue][i]
Ken S. Tucker;639930 Wrote:

On Jun 13, 8:10 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
....-

Incredible, worst in 500 years the news says, comparable
to Katrina/New Orleans in damage, and from what I can
tell, worse yet to come...hot summer heat, mosquitos,
fungus after the water receeds.

Still, we've been very lucky. Hundreds of businesses and home are
under
water right now... See:http://tinyurl.com/5o823a-

Gee, notice the difference between this and Katrina? So far I haven't
seen Midwesterners on the news screaming and crying for government
assistance.

FEMA isn't there handing out $2000 visa debit cards. And why hasn't
someone blamed the President for this?

Country people in the Midwest states have (IMHO)
a tradition of self-reliance and team work.
I look about my own house and try to imagine 6' of
water in it...that's a lot of work/time/money to clean
up. I see the Fed as a big insurance company, that
Iowa has paid into for years, but now is the time for
the benefit of those premiums to show-up.
Ken

"rotor&amp"; "wing" wrote in message
...[color=blue][i]

Ken S. Tucker;639930 Wrote:
On Jun 13, 8:10 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
....-

Incredible, worst in 500 years the news says, comparable
to Katrina/New Orleans in damage, and from what I can
tell, worse yet to come...hot summer heat, mosquitos,
fungus after the water receeds.

Still, we've been very lucky. Hundreds of businesses and home are
under
water right now... See:http://tinyurl.com/5o823a-



Gee, notice the difference between this and Katrina? So far I haven't
seen Midwesterners on the news screaming and crying for government
assistance.

FEMA isn't there handing out $2000 visa debit cards. And why hasn't
someone blamed the President for this?





Did you see the news tonight? Hands are out!

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:10:18 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in
uEG4k.153170$TT4.85970@attbi_s22:

The American Barnstormers Tour, an event we worked on for six months (and
for which we provided primary sponsorship) has been cancelled.

Ummm.... Not entirely:

The schedule for the American
Barnstormers Tour for June is as follows:

June 15-18 Ames, IA (AMW)
June 19-20 Council Bluffs, IA (CBF)
June 21-22 Hastings, NE (HSI)
June 23-24 Great Bend, KE (GBD)
June 25-26 Wichita, KS (AAO)
June 27 Emporia, KS (EMP) morning only-refueling
June 27-28 Lee's Summit, MO (LXT)
June 29-30 Jefferson City, MO (JEF)

Tour aircraft will be on display from approximately 11:00 am to
6:00 pm at each location, weather permitting. Biplane rides are
available for $50.00 per passenger.
FMI: www.americanbarnstormerstour.com

The American Barnstormers Tour, an event we worked on for six months (and
for which we provided primary sponsorship) has been cancelled.

Ummm.... Not entirely:

Right. I should have said the "Iowa City appearance" has been cancelled.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

FEMA isn't there handing out $2000 visa debit cards. And why hasn't
someone blamed the President for this?

Well, in fairness, few people have lost everything -- yet. Once the flood
waters recede, we'll see what's left.

Also, Iowa is a string of family-oriented, tight-knit communities. I didn't
ask for help, but -- between my kids' friends and their parents -- I had an
army of volunteer sand-baggers at the hotel within hours of the flood. I
never even had to call *our* friends -- we had more than enough strong backs
willing to slog sand-bags all day long.

This really is an amazing place to live. After a lifetime spent living in or
near big cities, I sometimes have to remind myself that this isn't a clichéd
movie set that we're living in -- the people here really DO live lives of
honest integrity, and they really DON'T see every person's hardships as an
opportunity to make money. And they really are willing to help their
fellow man, simply because it's the right thing to do.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
"rotor&amp"; "wing" wrote in
message ...[color=blue][i]

Ken S. Tucker;639930 Wrote:
On Jun 13, 8:10 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
....-

Incredible, worst in 500 years the news says, comparable
to Katrina/New Orleans in damage, and from what I can
tell, worse yet to come...hot summer heat, mosquitos,
fungus after the water receeds.

Still, we've been very lucky. Hundreds of businesses and home are
under
water right now... See:http://tinyurl.com/5o823a-



Gee, notice the difference between this and Katrina? So far I haven't
seen Midwesterners on the news screaming and crying for government
assistance.

FEMA isn't there handing out $2000 visa debit cards. And why hasn't
someone blamed the President for this?




--
rotor&wing

On Jun 14, 1:30*am, Airbus wrote:
Got floats on that single?
Floats on the hotel?

Photos of the flooding in Cedar Rapids (including aerial shots)
http://www.andrealynnphoto.com/CRflood2008/

Jay:

It's interesting seeing what's going on in Iowa from the EU perspective-
people in the streets here in southern France ask about the flooding, which
is the only domestic news from the US in the area, via CNN international.
Most of their interest is, or at least was in the Euro Cup, until France
lost.

People in the stores and restaurants ask if we live near the flooded areas.
Most of the rest of the US news has been about the economy.

There are a lot of planes flying overhead, mostly the turboprops from nearby
Salon, the air academy for France. Soaring is big here, with a local club
that is quite famous. However, the mistral winds have been lacking, so the
lift over the mountains has been weak at best. We're waiting for the winds
to pick up, so my son can celebrate his birthday with a ride.

Most cars run on diesel, and 3/4 of a tank cost $150.00 yesterday! I'm
afraid to learn what avgas costs, particularly with the weak dollar.
Breakfast in a hotel restaurant can be as much as $60.00, just for some
bread, pastries, juice and coffee. Even an inexpensive dinner is around $100
for the three of us.

So, from the world wide perspective, we have a ways to go before we see the
end of climbing gas prices and other costs of living.

Viperdoc schrieb:
Most cars run on diesel, and 3/4 of a tank cost $150.00 yesterday! I'm

3/4 of what? a truck?
I just filled up @EUR 1.49 per liter for 100 octan unleaded.
ah, ok ... sorry, just checked that you noted USD. Well, with the
current exchange rate you have a bad time.

afraid to learn what avgas costs, particularly with the weak dollar.
Breakfast in a hotel restaurant can be as much as $60.00, just for some

for 3? that's ok for a restaurant. else go to mcdonalds or so.

bread, pastries, juice and coffee. Even an inexpensive dinner is around $100
for the three of us.

this is about EUR 65. This is expensive for _inexpensive_.

So, from the world wide perspective, we have a ways to go before we see the
end of climbing gas prices and other costs of living.

#m

We have no McDonalds nearby, which is a good thing. also only around 8
channels on TV, most in FR, one in German, one in Italian, and then CNN
international. Most of the TV shows are American, and then dubbed in the
local language. Diesel is expensive, plus using a credit card incurs an
additional 3.4% surcharge. Luckily, I think we can get the 19.6% TVA (VAT)
back somehow, but haven't figured this out yet.

Haven't had a bad meal yet, from pizza to four star places- it's all good.
Wine and draft beers are also great. Hopefully will try some soaring
tomorrow. There is a tour company that flies 172's in the local area, but
this holds little interest for us. My son, whose birthday is tomorrow
doesn't want to fly in a sailplane- I don't think he grasps the concept of
flying without a running engine, and thinks it's dangerous.

The biggest difference we've noticed (my fifth trip to France) is that here,
if you go to a historical site like a castle tower and fall off, it's your
fault, while in the States, it's someone else's fault if you do something
stupid like go to the edge and go over the railing. In a way, it's kind of
refreshing to visit a society where people are expected to be responsible
for their own actions or stupidity, yet there is much more tolerance for
different points of view.

Viperdoc schrieb:
We have no McDonalds nearby, which is a good thing. also only around 8

true, but sometimes it is a quick choice and you always know what you get.

channels on TV, most in FR, one in German, one in Italian, and then CNN
international. Most of the TV shows are American, and then dubbed in the
local language. Diesel is expensive, plus using a credit card incurs an
additional 3.4% surcharge. Luckily, I think we can get the 19.6% TVA (VAT)
back somehow, but haven't figured this out yet.


AFAIK, you need the proper tax refund forms and show them when leaving
France at the customs desk. but please double check with someone who
know more about that.

I don't think he grasps the concept of
flying without a running engine, and thinks it's dangerous.

:-)

The biggest difference we've noticed (my fifth trip to France) is that here,
if you go to a historical site like a castle tower and fall off, it's your
fault, while in the States, it's someone else's fault if you do something
stupid like go to the edge and go over the railing. In a way, it's kind of
refreshing to visit a society where people are expected to be responsible
for their own actions or stupidity, yet there is much more tolerance for
different points of view.

:-)

#m