101 BEST Aviation Attractions

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 17:20:03 -0500 TTA Cherokee Driver wrote:

R.Hubbell wrote:

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 13:21:44 GMT Kyler Laird wrote:


"R.Hubbell" writes:


Uh, when a guy makes the gathered info FREE on a website, AND publishes
it in a book, I cannot fault him.....

Since you don't seem to know what's going on I will tell you. The camping
site you say he's hosting is waiting to be filled in by anyone willing to
fill it in. Right now it's empty. Once you've put that up on his site
it's his (see the copyright on his site) then he creates a book from other
peoples' contributions and he collects the $$$.

Setting aside his poor socialization, do you really fault him for this
process? It isn't as though he tricks people into giving him the rights



I remember back when Usenet FAQs were getting pilfered and turned into books.
There are too many contributors for just one to claim ownership. It's stuff
like this that turned a lot of people away from Usenet.




wrong. What turned people away from usenet are, in order:

Wrong? No, it's definitely stuff like this that turned people away.
I know people personally that were turned away for that and other stuff
like that.



1. the fact that you need a special kind of client to participate and as
a result 99.99% of net users don't even know of usenet's existence


How does this turn people away? If they never figured it out then how
could they have been turned away? Usenet doesn't really want them.



2. the extremely poor quality of the discourse and content (this
newsgroup is a rare exception), which gets worse every year (sadly this
newsgroup, while it hasn't sunk to the level of most of usenet, is not
an exception to that rule, as evidenced by this very sub-thread of
complanining about someone's post and all the BS about whether or nt Jay
was spamming)

Spam is spam, the original poster of this thread is veiled spam.
Jay's is suitable for *marketplace really. And no amount of good-ole
boy BS will change that fact.


3. the hair-trigger posturing and ad hominem attacks that became so
common, often but not always related to #2 above.

That is definitely true and has been going on for too long but it won't
change.

4. the spam


This could be controlled better I think. Offending ISPs could either
run cancelbots or they could be blackholed. There is also some emerging
technology that will cut down on this too. I forget the TLA but essentially
it is a trusted dns record for nntp (and mx, et. al.).


5. all the people complaining about the spam and calling other people's
posts spam at the slightest provocation.


See 4.


Having responded to this I will say I'm done with this thread.

R. Hubbell


As someone who has been on usenet since 1988 and now only bothers to
look at 4 newsgroups I think I know something about this.

"R.Hubbell" wrote in
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 20:16:39 GMT ET wrote:

"R.Hubbell" wrote in
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 18:26:59 GMT "John Purner"
wrote:

As a complimentary site to my new book "101 Best Aviation
Attractions", I have activated a new website at
issues the other Aviation Attractions. The book will be released
by McGraw-Hill in Late April. Amazon is already selling it. Hope
this helps some of ya'll.


How long before you take all that camping info you're waiting for
others to fill in for you so you can make a book out of it too?

I'm sure the museum book will not be far behind.


Note to guy collecting camping sites at airports, place a copyright
on your work!


R. Hubbell


Also best wishes to my usual detractors who will doubtless crawl
out from beneath their rocks! I do hope they speak the truth this
time, but am reasonably certain they won't. Why should their
pattern change? Fortunately most members of this news group pay
little attention to them anyway.

--
John Purner
Editor - The $100 Hamburger



Uh, when a guy makes the gathered info FREE on a website, AND
publishes it in a book, I cannot fault him.....

Since you don't seem to know what's going on I will tell you. The
camping site you say he's hosting is waiting to be filled in by anyone
willing to fill it in. Right now it's empty. Once you've put that up
on his site it's his (see the copyright on his site) then he creates a
book from other peoples' contributions and he collects the $$$.


What are you waiting for? Get on over there and fill it in for him!



R. Hubbell

No, I get it... I just don't think it's as "evil" as you say it is.
Look at his already written $100 burger site and book. The site access
is free, but if you want it in book form, you buy it. I have no problem
with that.

I'm not yet a pilot so I cannot contribute, but if I could, I would.


--
ET


"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 17:35:52 GMT ET wrote:

"R.Hubbell" wrote in
:

On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 20:16:39 GMT ET wrote:

"R.Hubbell" wrote in
:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 18:26:59 GMT "John Purner"
wrote:

As a complimentary site to my new book "101 Best Aviation
Attractions", I have activated a new website at
issues the other Aviation Attractions. The book will be released
by McGraw-Hill in Late April. Amazon is already selling it. Hope
this helps some of ya'll.


How long before you take all that camping info you're waiting for
others to fill in for you so you can make a book out of it too?

I'm sure the museum book will not be far behind.


Note to guy collecting camping sites at airports, place a copyright
on your work!


R. Hubbell


Also best wishes to my usual detractors who will doubtless crawl
out from beneath their rocks! I do hope they speak the truth this
time, but am reasonably certain they won't. Why should their
pattern change? Fortunately most members of this news group pay
little attention to them anyway.

--
John Purner
Editor - The $100 Hamburger



Uh, when a guy makes the gathered info FREE on a website, AND
publishes it in a book, I cannot fault him.....

Since you don't seem to know what's going on I will tell you. The
camping site you say he's hosting is waiting to be filled in by anyone
willing to fill it in. Right now it's empty. Once you've put that up
on his site it's his (see the copyright on his site) then he creates a
book from other peoples' contributions and he collects the $$$.


What are you waiting for? Get on over there and fill it in for him!



R. Hubbell

No, I get it... I just don't think it's as "evil" as you say it is.
Look at his already written $100 burger site and book. The site access
is free, but if you want it in book form, you buy it. I have no problem
with that.

I'm not yet a pilot so I cannot contribute, but if I could, I would.

Why do you have to be a pilot to contribute? Why not search the internet
for airports that allow camping and fill that in? http://google.com


R. Hubbell



--
ET


"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams

"R.Hubbell" wrote in
:




Why do you have to be a pilot to contribute? Why not search the
internet for airports that allow camping and fill that in?
http://google.com


R. Hubbell


Phhhffffththhhhh!

--
ET


"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 22:39:30 GMT ET wrote:

"R.Hubbell" wrote in
:




Why do you have to be a pilot to contribute? Why not search the
internet for airports that allow camping and fill that in?
http://google.com


R. Hubbell


Phhhffffththhhhh!


What's that? A bad burrito?

R. Hubbell


--
ET


"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams