fun with controllers at OSU

This afternoon I went out for a few laps at Ohio State. Weather was pretty
marginal, so I did 2 landings there, departed to an uncontrolled field about
12mi away for a few, then came back. I wanted to do a few more, so I was
doing t-n-g's on the north runway. Each time, the controller said 'clear for
the option'. So on one lap, I decided I wanted to practice a short field
landing. Stuck it, stopped and requested a back taxi. Nope, roll down to end
and taxi back on taxiway, then reprimanded me for stopping on the runway. He
wasn't nasty about it. 'I know you're the only one up there, but it's
baaaaaad practice...' etc.
I went through this several times when I was learning to fly there, as did
other students. Even my flight instructors would get frustrated with this
exact situation.
The airport was not at all busy. I am not arguing this guys authority or
anything, but we have to be able to practice these landings somewhere, I'm
not going to an 1500' strip out in the boonies to practice for real. I was
this close to asking the guy for the number up in the cab, but figured I
would just go home even more puzzled.
So, you controllers out there, what exactly am I cleared to do with 'cleared
for the option' that differs from 'clear for touch and go' or 'clear to
land'? Do I need to request, specifically, that I am wanting to practice a
short field, with full braking and a complete stop on the runway?

"Mike W." wrote in message ...
This afternoon I went out for a few laps at Ohio State. Weather was pretty
marginal, so I did 2 landings there, departed to an uncontrolled field about
12mi away for a few, then came back. I wanted to do a few more, so I was
doing t-n-g's on the north runway. Each time, the controller said 'clear for
the option'. So on one lap, I decided I wanted to practice a short field
landing. Stuck it, stopped and requested a back taxi. Nope, roll down to end
and taxi back on taxiway, then reprimanded me for stopping on the runway. He
wasn't nasty about it. 'I know you're the only one up there, but it's
baaaaaad practice...' etc.
I went through this several times when I was learning to fly there, as did
other students. Even my flight instructors would get frustrated with this
exact situation.
The airport was not at all busy. I am not arguing this guys authority or
anything, but we have to be able to practice these landings somewhere, I'm
not going to an 1500' strip out in the boonies to practice for real. I was
this close to asking the guy for the number up in the cab, but figured I
would just go home even more puzzled.
So, you controllers out there, what exactly am I cleared to do with 'cleared
for the option' that differs from 'clear for touch and go' or 'clear to
land'? Do I need to request, specifically, that I am wanting to practice a
short field, with full braking and a complete stop on the runway?



Just curious, you said you went to an uncontrolled field ~12 mi away. Why didn't you do this practice there?

Uncontrolled field has standard (left) traffic pattern. The airport I fly
out of has 9R-27L (main runway) and 9L-27R, which gets used a lot for
training, has right traffic (27R). I wanted a few more landings, I like to
mix up left-right, I think it is beneficial as the pattern 'looks' a little
different, L vs R.

" Blueskies" wrote in message
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Just curious, you said you went to an uncontrolled field ~12 mi away. Why
didn't you do this practice there?

"Mike W." wrote in message
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Uncontrolled field has standard (left) traffic pattern.

Non-towered field...just announce that you are making right traffic...no
tower, no active runway.

Stephen

"Hotel 179" wrote in message
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Non-towered field...just announce that you are making right traffic...no
tower, no active runway.


Why would you announce that you're violating the FARs?

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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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Why would you announce that you're violating the FARs?


Steven,

Which FAR are you referring to?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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Why would you announce that you're violating the FARs?

I was referring to the fact that postage stamp runways in the boonies have a
more relaxed atmosphere than a non-towered field that may really need a
tower....my earlier post was an over-simplification.

Stephen

Can't do that.


"Hotel 179" wrote in message
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"Mike W." wrote in message
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Uncontrolled field has standard (left) traffic pattern.

Non-towered field...just announce that you are making right traffic...no
tower, no active runway.

Stephen

Of course you can. Just not legally!

Many of society's problems can be traced back to this lack of distinction between "can" and "may". Teach your
children well their "grammar"

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Cheers,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ


"OtisWinslow" wrote in message ...
Can't do that.


"Hotel 179" wrote in message ...



"Mike W." wrote in message ...
Uncontrolled field has standard (left) traffic pattern.

Non-towered field...just announce that you are making right traffic...no tower, no active runway.

Stephen

Mike W. wrote:


The airport was not at all busy. I am not arguing this guys authority or
anything, but we have to be able to practice these landings somewhere, I'm
not going to an 1500' strip out in the boonies to practice for real. I was
this close to asking the guy for the number up in the cab, but figured I
would just go home even more puzzled.

You should have, he was wrong.


So, you controllers out there, what exactly am I cleared to do with 'cleared
for the option' that differs from 'clear for touch and go' or 'clear to
land'? Do I need to request, specifically, that I am wanting to practice a
short field, with full braking and a complete stop on the runway?

A stop and go is one of your options is he doesn't specifically tell you
no stop and go's. We have an instructor here that will ask for options
and then have his student fly the length of our 2 mile runway at about 3
agl. In that 2 miles the student may touch the runway 5 or 6 times.
The instructor just can't understand why this is a problem.