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How accurate was B-26 bombing?
Go to my website to the section titled, "MISSIONS AND RESULTS". Click on "The
Bridge at Verberie" then" Wurzburg" to see how effective we were. Then peruse the other 10 strike photos to get a good idea of precision bombing at its best. The Bridge at Verberie is an example of putting a bomb in a pickle barrel from 10,000 feet. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Was that ONE bomb, Art, in that "pickle barrel", or did a flight of several
aircraft string them out a little? No, no...each and every B-26 hit (within todays "Near-PGM" criteria of 10 meters) with each one of its bombs. Haven't you read Art before? BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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"BUFDRVR" wrote in message No, no...each and every B-26 hit (within todays "Near-PGM" criteria of 10 meters) with each one of its bombs. Haven't you read Art before? We all read him wearing hipboots! :-) |
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Subject: How accurate was B-26 bombing?
From: "Bob's Your Uncle" Date: 2/29/04 5:46 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "BUFDRVR" wrote in message No, no...each and every B-26 hit (within todays "Near-PGM" criteria of 10 meters) with each one of its bombs. Haven't you read Art before? We all read him wearing hipboots! :-) Can we see some of your strike photos? Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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ubject: How accurate was B-26 bombing?
From: (BUFDRVR) Date: 2/28/04 6:47 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Was that ONE bomb, Art, in that "pickle barrel", or did a flight of several aircraft string them out a little? No, no...each and every B-26 hit (within todays "Near-PGM" criteria of 10 meters) with each one of its bombs. Haven't you read Art before? BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" Can we see some of your strike photos? Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Can we see some of your strike photos?
Sure old man. To be fair, these two are actually the result of two 2-ships, but my formation hit it first. Befo http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/990526-O-9999M-003.jpg After: http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/990526-O-9999M-004.jpg This mission was very interesting...to say the least: http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/b990514i.jpg The rest of my strikes to make "news" were JDAM strikes. The one thing you will notice is that mil dispersion pretty much ensures a few of your weapons are going to miss by a good distance, despite what you say. If you look at the Batajanica images, we threw a few M-117s out "in the weeds". We had anticiapated this because some of the weapons were in pretty bad shape. Unlike you, we realized that sending a loader back to get us some new weapons would have interfered with the "hustle & bustle" of flightline ops, so we pressed on. The runway was shutdown for the remainder of the conflict, although Eagle pilots flying around probably aided in shutting down flight ops there as much as our weapons did. Were you trying to make a point with your question? BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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Subject: How accurate was B-26 bombing?
From: (BUFDRVR) Date: 2/29/04 2:13 PM Pacific Standard Time Can we see some of your strike photos? Sure old man. To be fair, these two are actually the result of two 2-ships, but my formation hit it first. Befo http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/990526-O-9999M-003.jpg After: http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/990526-O-9999M-004.jpg This mission was very interesting...to say the least: http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/b990514i.jpg The rest of my strikes to make "news" were JDAM strikes. The one thing you will notice is that mil dispersion pretty much ensures a few of your weapons are going to miss by a good distance, despite what you say. If you look at the Batajanica images, we threw a few M-117s out "in the weeds". We had anticiapated this because some of the weapons were in pretty bad shape. Unlike you, we realized that sending a loader back to get us some new weapons would have interfered with the "hustle & bustle" of flightline ops, so we pressed on. The runway was shutdown for the remainder of the conflict, although Eagle pilots flying around probably aided in shutting down flight ops there as much as our weapons did. Were you trying to make a point with your question? BUFDRVR YTHe point I was triyng to make was that we flew misison swith dumb bimbs that were sometimes as accurate as mision flown today with smart bombs. I showed youy the strike photos and you still say it never happened. Your hits look good and as you say you are getting a very large dispersion, How many planes in how tight a formation? Looks a bit loose. What was the intervelometer interval? We tucked in wingtip to wing tip on the run. See the Wurzburg hits. Also see "FLAK" and "ONE WENT DOWN" to gewt an idea what things were like in the air while we were on our bomb runs. One more thing. I note that there was a hole in the bomb pattern that left one bullding standing Someone out of formation or a delay in a release? Thanks for posting the hits. I love looking at strike photos and live for tight patterns. Got any more? Post some more and I won't call you names anymore. (grin) Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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On 29 Feb 2004 22:13:51 GMT, (BUFDRVR) wrote:
To be fair, these two are actually the result of two 2-ships, but my formation hit it first. Befo http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/990526-O-9999M-003.jpg After: http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/990526-O-9999M-004.jpg This mission was very interesting...to say the least: http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/b990514i.jpg The rest of my strikes to make "news" were JDAM strikes. The one thing you will notice is that mil dispersion pretty much ensures a few of your weapons are going to miss by a good distance, despite what you say. If you look at the Batajanica images, we threw a few M-117s out "in the weeds". We had anticiapated this because some of the weapons were in pretty bad shape. Unlike you, we realized that sending a loader back to get us some new weapons would have interfered with the "hustle & bustle" of flightline ops, so we pressed on. BUFDRVR, First of all, nice shooting (dropping?lobbing?) either way. Bloody good BDA. A quick question though.... Are the M-117s still being manufactured, or is it *still* a case of running down old stock? If they are still being produced, why? Do they have a noticably better CEP over a Mk.82/83, or are they significantly cheaper? Thanks, --- Peter Kemp Life is short - drink faster |
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