Post-accident photos of RV/TBM Avenger Oshkosh taxi collision

".Blueskies." wrote in message
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"Peter Dohm" wrote in message
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: That said, REALLY READ the threads on vansairforce.com because there may
be
: much more to the story when the actual report comes out...
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: Peter
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And by that you mean what?
The RV cut in front of the Avenger?
The Avenger was doing S turns?

All of those and their opposites. None of the posts, that I read, claimed
to have been personally watching prior to the accident. That means that I
lot of us have been shooting from the hip, and perhaps we should take a
break.

Folks were on the scene very quickly?

Commendable, and not surprising.

The pictures were 'censored' off the site?

VERY high on my list of pet peaves! It just seems that anything that might
be really usefull or informative has a way of being censored on some
pretext--such as "too disturbing" or the alleged privacy of the next of kin.
The Dale Earnhart crash in NASCAR was one good example and this is another.
The net result seems to be the protection of "expert" findings.

I realize that looks like a contradiction of my earlier comment; however it
is not. The first was a suggestion to wait and review all of the evidence.
The last was an expression of my annoyance at the suppression of portions of
the evidence, making the reasoned arrival at any accurate independent
conclusion difficult or impossible.

(Temporary end of rant.)

Always helps when folks say what they mean...



I'm trying.
(Sometimes very trying)

Peter

"Peter Dohm" wrote in
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".Blueskies." wrote in message
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Snipola


The pictures were 'censored' off the site?

VERY high on my list of pet peaves! It just seems that anything that
might be really usefull or informative has a way of being censored on
some pretext--such as "too disturbing" or the alleged privacy of the
next of kin.
Snipola

In case you missed it, I posted them over in
alt.binaries.pictures.aviation under the subject of "OSH TBM accident".

Brian
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Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

"Skywise" wrote in message
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"Peter Dohm" wrote in
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".Blueskies." wrote in message
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Snipola


The pictures were 'censored' off the site?

VERY high on my list of pet peaves! It just seems that anything that
might be really usefull or informative has a way of being censored on
some pretext--such as "too disturbing" or the alleged privacy of the
next of kin.
Snipola

In case you missed it, I posted them over in
alt.binaries.pictures.aviation under the subject of "OSH TBM accident".

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

And thanks for posting them, and defeating some of the censorship.
I did see them, and also posted the location earlier in this thread.

Peter

: That said, REALLY READ the threads on vansairforce.com because there may

be

: much more to the story when the actual report comes out...
:
: Peter
:
:

And by that you mean what?
The RV cut in front of the Avenger?
The Avenger was doing S turns?


All of those and their opposites. None of the posts, that I read, claimed
to have been personally watching prior to the accident. That means that I
lot of us have been shooting from the hip, and perhaps we should take a
break.



Actully there was a post on the Matronics RV-List that was written by a
person that witnessed the accident about 100 ft from his location.

In case you missed it, I posted them over in
alt.binaries.pictures.aviation under the subject of "OSH TBM accident".


And thanks for posting them, and defeating some of the censorship.
I did see them, and also posted the location earlier in this thread.

They have been removed from my server, or from the binaries site, now.
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:
In case you missed it, I posted them over in

alt.binaries.pictures.aviation under the subject of "OSH TBM accident".


And thanks for posting them, and defeating some of the censorship.
I did see them, and also posted the location earlier in this thread.


They have been removed from my server, or from the binaries site, now.


Just checked and they are still there on the
alt.binaries.pictures.aviation site.

"Jerry Springer" wrote in

Just checked and they are still there on the
alt.binaries.pictures.aviation site.

Just to be sure I didn't miss them, what are they named in the subject box?

I'm pretty sure that my server removed them.
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Jim in NC

In article , "Morgans"
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Just to be sure I didn't miss them, what are they named in the subject box?

I'm pretty sure that my server removed them.

"TBM" is in the subject line and reference to OSH.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

In a previous article, Jerry Springer said:
Morgans wrote:
They have been removed from my server, or from the binaries site, now.
Just checked and they are still there on the
alt.binaries.pictures.aviation site.

There is no such thing as "the alt.binaries.pictures.aviation site". Each
individual news server carries or doesn't carry usenet newsgroups for as
long as they want, so while they may still be on the server you're looking
at, they may have already expired from the server "Morgans" is looking at.

The news servers I run don't carry alt.binaries at all, because the
terabytes of data involved are too expensive for the non-profits I do it
for.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
It might not be practical, it might not be a good idea, but it could work.
Sort of like Windows.
-- berry

Morgans wrote:
"Jerry Springer" wrote in


Just checked and they are still there on the
alt.binaries.pictures.aviation site.


Just to be sure I didn't miss them, what are they named in the subject box?

I'm pretty sure that my server removed them.

The easiest wasy to find them is to look for the sender "skywise"
and then "OSH TBM Accident" they are up this morning. I say these are
very educational photos.

try this link to see them, not sure how long it well be avialable.


http://flickr.com/photos/bowen/tags/...h2006accident/

Could be that some servers don't have the room to keep them up for long.

Jerry