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Old March 20th 06, 03:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Safety wiring oil filters?

A question for those flying auto converisons - how do you secure the
oil filter?

Aviation oil filters have safety wire tabs. FRAM HP filter, which for
various reason are what I need to use on my VW based conversion, no
got. Oil filters typically go on finger tight. Losing your oil filter
could ruin your WHOLE day.

Anybody got any ideas how to secure this bad thing? I've thought about
forming a little "hat" out of a stainless steel mixing bowl that would
at least keep it from falling off. And silver soldering on some
tabs...

Any ideas?

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Old March 20th 06, 03:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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flybynightkarmarepair wrote:
A question for those flying auto converisons - how do you secure the
oil filter?

Aviation oil filters have safety wire tabs. FRAM HP filter, which for
various reason are what I need to use on my VW based conversion, no
got. Oil filters typically go on finger tight. Losing your oil filter
could ruin your WHOLE day.

Anybody got any ideas how to secure this bad thing? I've thought about
forming a little "hat" out of a stainless steel mixing bowl that would
at least keep it from falling off. And silver soldering on some
tabs...

Any ideas?

Put a big ole adel clamp around the filter and viola, a safety wire tab.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old March 20th 06, 03:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Safety wiring oil filters?

Just answered my own question with a web search, which is what I should
have done first.

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0002_hand/

put a hose clamp around the filter, then wire the hose clamp to the
filter adapter.

Or, buy a K&N filter, which has the high pressure properties of the
FRAM HP series, plus safety wire tabs.

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Old March 20th 06, 06:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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I selected a filter that has a hexagonal nut on the end as a part of the
body. I drilled a safety wire hole thru the nut (it doesn't leak). Been
doing this for about 3years with no problem.

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"flybynightkarmarepair" wrote in message
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Just answered my own question with a web search, which is what I should
have done first.

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0002_hand/

put a hose clamp around the filter, then wire the hose clamp to the
filter adapter.

Or, buy a K&N filter, which has the high pressure properties of the
FRAM HP series, plus safety wire tabs.



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Old March 20th 06, 09:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On 20 Mar 2006 07:49:04 -0800, "flybynightkarmarepair"
wrote:

A question for those flying auto converisons - how do you secure the
oil filter?

Aviation oil filters have safety wire tabs. FRAM HP filter, which for
various reason are what I need to use on my VW based conversion, no
got. Oil filters typically go on finger tight. Losing your oil filter
could ruin your WHOLE day.

Anybody got any ideas how to secure this bad thing? I've thought about
forming a little "hat" out of a stainless steel mixing bowl that would
at least keep it from falling off. And silver soldering on some
tabs...

Any ideas?


BIG hose clamp around the flter - tie off the clamp.

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Old March 20th 06, 09:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:28:53 -0800, "Stuart & Kathryn Fields"
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I selected a filter that has a hexagonal nut on the end as a part of the
body. I drilled a safety wire hole thru the nut (it doesn't leak). Been
doing this for about 3years with no problem.

The old Hastings filters were nice that way - you could easily drill
the "nut"
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Old March 21st 06, 02:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Safety wiring oil filters?

I agree with Dan, the Adel clamp generally has a rubber piece attached that
would prevent the clamp from chafing the filter or puncturing the filter
from vibration.
"flybynightkarmarepair" wrote in message
ups.com...
A question for those flying auto converisons - how do you secure the
oil filter?

Aviation oil filters have safety wire tabs. FRAM HP filter, which for
various reason are what I need to use on my VW based conversion, no
got. Oil filters typically go on finger tight. Losing your oil filter
could ruin your WHOLE day.

Anybody got any ideas how to secure this bad thing? I've thought about
forming a little "hat" out of a stainless steel mixing bowl that would
at least keep it from falling off. And silver soldering on some
tabs...

Any ideas?



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Old March 21st 06, 03:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"flybynightkarmarepair" wrote in message
ups.com...
A question for those flying auto converisons - how do you secure the
oil filter?

Aviation oil filters have safety wire tabs. FRAM HP filter, which for
various reason are what I need to use on my VW based conversion, no
got. Oil filters typically go on finger tight. Losing your oil filter
could ruin your WHOLE day.


You're right that losing one could ruin your whole day.

My question is: "How many automotive oil filters do you know of that have
fallen off?" I don't know of a single one.

Some of the things we safety in aviation vs some of the things we don't are
pretty interesting.

For instance, we don't safety the AN fittings on fuel and oil lines. Why
not? What makes these different from the oil filter?

KB


Anybody got any ideas how to secure this bad thing? I've thought about
forming a little "hat" out of a stainless steel mixing bowl that would
at least keep it from falling off. And silver soldering on some
tabs...

Any ideas?



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Old March 21st 06, 05:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Safety wiring oil filters?

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:04:36 -0500, "Kyle Boatright"
wrote:


"flybynightkarmarepair" wrote in message
oups.com...
A question for those flying auto converisons - how do you secure the
oil filter?

Aviation oil filters have safety wire tabs. FRAM HP filter, which for
various reason are what I need to use on my VW based conversion, no
got. Oil filters typically go on finger tight. Losing your oil filter
could ruin your WHOLE day.


You're right that losing one could ruin your whole day.

My question is: "How many automotive oil filters do you know of that have
fallen off?" I don't know of a single one.


I was on a long road trip in my 1979 Camaro when I happened to look under the
car during a rest stop and spotted oil dripping. My filter had backed off.
Hadn't fallen away, but it sure wasn't sealing.

Ron Wanttaja
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Old March 21st 06, 06:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Kyle Boatright" wrote

You're right that losing one could ruin your whole day.

My question is: "How many automotive oil filters do you know of that have
fallen off?" I don't know of a single one.

Some of the things we safety in aviation vs some of the things we don't

are
pretty interesting.

For instance, we don't safety the AN fittings on fuel and oil lines. Why
not? What makes these different from the oil filter?


Darned good observations, that I have also thought about.

Ever slightly over tighten an oil filter on a car? I'm talking about just a
half turn too much?

It will cost you many minutes of severe language, and a loss of patience.
I've had to pound a screw driver through them, when a strap filter would not
get a grip. I've had that not work, and end up crushing the end of the
filter with a giant pair of channel locks, to grip it well enough to turn.

So what is the answer? It prolly would not need to be safety wired, but
would I, if I was flying an auto conversion? Prolly would. g
--
Jim in NC

 




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