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Well, you see, sometimes we get attacked by people and our tradition is to get damned unfriendly with those that did it, ... Were any of those people from Iraq? Hint: no Genius, if you hadn't edited my sentence, you'd have seen the reference to "...and anyone vaguely resembling..." So, did the people that attacked us look anything at all like natives of Iraq? Hint: yes. |
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"The Enlightenment" wrote in message ... Well, there would have to be a doubt in the minds of most people in regards to that. However there is no doubt that they (the neo-cons and by implication one of the Israeli services I'm thingking of the Niger Uranium forgeries) The Nigerian Uranium stories came from British source not American. Keith ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"B2431" wrote in message ... From: (miso) snip My blood still boils when I think of Bush reading to those kids in Florida well after the **** hit the fan. What would you have him do? Jump up and leave the room? That would lead to confusion and speculation beyond what was already going on and it would have upset the children in the room. Do you really think that few minutes would have meant anything? Actually I was impressed when I heard this. It shows an ability to remain cool that I hadnt previously credited Bush with. Keith ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Krztalizer wrote:
Well, you see, sometimes we get attacked by people and our tradition is to get damned unfriendly with those that did it, ... Were any of those people from Iraq? Hint: no Genius, if you hadn't edited my sentence, you'd have seen the reference to "...and anyone vaguely resembling..." So, did the people that attacked us look anything at all like natives of Iraq? Hint: yes. If that's the case, why didn't we attack the people from Syria, or Lebanon, or Jordan, or Saudi Arabia, or Egypt, or Lybia? They all look alike, don't they, or can you tell one from another? Since when do Americans go to war with someone because they look like somebody who did something nasty to us? When did we become so stupid? George Z. |
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote: "Anne" wrote in message ... Can you tell what ever happened to nice americans? Some Islamic extremists killed large numbers of them and did billions of dollars worth of damage. This understandably ticked them off somewhat. Keith Thanks, Keith. I'm a nice American who is VERY ANGRY at OBL and his ilk, Saddam Insane and his ilk, and anyone here or in other countries who would apologize for them. All we need to do is make membership in Al-Queda and its affiliates very life threatening to the members and find OBL and his top henchmen and kill them without mercy. They gave no mercy to airline passengers or the occupants of the buildings on 9-11, so why should any quarter be given to them. The favors they gave on 9-11 will be returned. And Bin Laden will either take a perp walk or be carried away-in a body bag. (Ditto for his top lieutenants like Ayman Al-Zwahari and Abu Musab Al-Zarquari.)Sooner or later someone will drop a dime on them and will walk away with a LOT of money. Whether or not those they informed on will ever walk again is another matter..... Posted via www.My-Newsgroups.com - web to news gateway for usenet access! |
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If that's the case, why didn't we attack the people from Syria, or Lebanon, or Jordan, or Saudi Arabia, or Egypt, or Lybia? Because our leadership is just smart enough not to. Not that they wouldn't /want/ to, they just know that they'd have the US population up in arms if they went that far off the deep end. Since when do Americans go to war with someone because they look like somebody who did something nasty to us? How many Afganis attacked us before we deployed B-52s? Granted, its a cesspool over there, but it wasn't 'our' cesspool, nor did people from Afganistan take part in the 9/11 attacks. If we struck back at only the groups that nailed us, Saudi Arabia would be under new management right now. So instead, we went after a country filled with people who looked quite a bit like the folks that zapped us, after claiming they were a genuine, immediate threat to our internal safety. When did we become so stupid? Sometime around when we sent bombers to drop on downtown Belgrade. |
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"Krztalizer" wrote in message ... snip How many Afganis attacked us before we deployed B-52s? Granted, its a cesspool over there, but it wasn't 'our' cesspool, nor did people from Afganistan take part in the 9/11 attacks. No, their government just provided the support and infrastructure that allowed the organization that did conduct those attacks to operate openly, along with providing training grounds for some of those very same terrorists who did do the attack to hone their skills. They also apprently provided security for that same group. When confronted and the demand to hand over those same organizational leaders was issued, along with the requirement to dismantle the training camps, they said, "Fuhgetaboutit." Not a wise move. If we struck back at only the groups that nailed us, Saudi Arabia would be under new management right now. Eh? You are accusing King Fahd of having "nailed us"? So instead, we went after a country filled with people who looked quite a bit like the folks that zapped us, after claiming they were a genuine, immediate threat to our internal safety. Gee, it is interesting how easly you forget/discount the fact that "the folks that(sic) zapped us" were then resident in same said country, and were continuing to train and operate from same said country, with same said country's rather open support. Kind of changes the equation a bit, eh? When did we become so stupid? Sometime around when we sent bombers to drop on downtown Belgrade. Uhmmm..? And the connection is...? Brooks |
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When did
we become so stupid? Sometime around when we sent bombers to drop on downtown Belgrade. Uhmmm..? And the connection is...? The only connection is that neither the citizens of Belgrade nor the citizens of Afganistan attacked us, but that didn't stop our government from dropping bombs on population centers. Think about what sort of psychological damage it does to kids and non-combatants when the "greatest nation on earth" comes and terrorizes you and everyone you know by blowing up familiar landmarks in your home town, often after the targeted thugs have quit those buildings after realizing that CNN was spending a lot of time pointing cameras at them. I understand we need to go after terrorists, but apparently we aren't allowed/inclined to go after them if they reside in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia and are on the government payroll. Are we safer or not, since we attacked Iraq? Why was it Priority #1 to find and punish Bin Laden in the hours after 9/11, yet our president later announced, "..don't know if we're going to find him or not"? Are we safer or not, since Pakistan granted full immunity and awarded saint status to the prick that sold nuclear technology to practically everyone with a fist full of money? This whole affair is being handled poorly and in the process, the reputation of my country has gone right down the toilent in nearly every other nation. Gordon |
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"Krztalizer" wrote in message ... When did we become so stupid? Sometime around when we sent bombers to drop on downtown Belgrade. Uhmmm..? And the connection is...? The only connection is that neither the citizens of Belgrade nor the citizens of Afganistan attacked us, but that didn't stop our government from dropping bombs on population centers. For cryin' out loud, stop being so danged facile about this--the Taliban supported AQ, provided them refuge and training grounds, guaranteed their security, etc. Stop acting as if Afghnistan had nothing to do with 9-11. And get off your freakin' high horse about bombing "population centers"; the strikes we have conducted have utilyzed every possible means to reduce collateral damage and focus on hitting legitimate targets. Those that have been injured due to collateral damage should instead be considering what they *did not* do, or what they *did*, to incur the attacks in the first place. As to Belgrade, there were a few hundred thousand Kosovars who might disagree with you in regards to whether there was any cause for attacking Belgrade. Think about what sort of psychological damage it does to kids and non-combatants when the "greatest nation on earth" comes and terrorizes you and everyone you know by blowing up familiar landmarks in your home town, often after the targeted thugs have quit those buildings after realizing that CNN was spending a lot of time pointing cameras at them. So you say. I understand we need to go after terrorists, I doubt that, because apparently you can't seem to grasp the necessity of going into Afghanistan, which is where the freakin' terrorists happened TO BE at the time, courtesy of a friendly (to them) Taliban government. but apparently we aren't allowed/inclined to go after them if they reside in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia and are on the government payroll. Are we safer or not, since we attacked Iraq? Why was it Priority #1 to find and punish Bin Laden in the hours after 9/11, yet our president later announced, "..don't know if we're going to find him or not"? Are we safer or not, since Pakistan granted full immunity and awarded saint status to the prick that sold nuclear technology to practically everyone with a fist full of money? This whole affair is being handled poorly and in the process, the reputation of my country has gone right down the toilent in nearly every other nation. In your own mind, sadly. Along with your reputation in my mind, also sadly, I might add. Different means to handle different threats, and levels of threat. Had the Taliban leadership exhibited the same degree of cooperation that the Pakistanis have demonstrated thus far, things might very well have turned out quite differently in Afghanistan--they were given the choice, they chose wrong. Oops. The Saudis have been the TARGET of that same terrorist organization that you claim to "understand we need to go after", if you had not noticed. Brooks Gordon |
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