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scattering ashes from SGS 2-33
We have a request from a family member to scatter ashes from a
recently deceased member. I know this type of operation can be problematic if not performed correctly. Any ideas about using the back window of a SGS 2-33??? |
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scattering ashes from SGS 2-33
I wasn't involved myself but we did just that at the Albuquerque
Soaring Club with our 2-33 and the ashes of Al Santilli. Contact our president Bob Hudson, he'll be able to fill you in on the details: http://abqsoaring.org/contacts.php Markus Graeber On May 7, 6:51*am, thing73 wrote: We have a request from a family member to scatter ashes from a recently deceased member. I know this type of operation can be problematic if not performed correctly. *Any ideas about using the back window of a SGS 2-33??? |
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scattering ashes from SGS 2-33
On May 7, 7:51*am, thing73 wrote:
We have a request from a family member to scatter ashes from a recently deceased member. I know this type of operation can be problematic if not performed correctly. *Any ideas about using the back window of a SGS 2-33??? Hold container as far behind window as can be reached, and away about a foot or so. Don't even think about the door! UH |
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scattering ashes from SGS 2-33
I've never done this but have read a lot of accounts of people
scattering ashes in airplanes. Some of them end well and others end with a lot of ashes in the cockpit and somebodies remains getting pulled into the vacuum cleaner. One thing i've heard is to trail a long hose out the window, and then insert the hose into the bag of ashes. the airflow over the trailing hose causes a suction which pulls the ashes out of the bag. You just really want to avoid letting them go too close to the opening in the fuselage so that they get sucked back inside, like Hank said. |
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scattering ashes from SGS 2-33
On May 7, 7:45*am, Tony wrote:
I've never done this but have read a lot of accounts of people scattering ashes in airplanes. Some of them end well and others end with a lot of ashes in the cockpit and somebodies remains getting pulled into the vacuum cleaner. One thing i've heard is to trail a long hose out the window, and then insert the hose into the bag of ashes. *the airflow over the trailing hose causes a suction which pulls the ashes out of the bag. You just really want to avoid letting them go too close to the opening in the fuselage so that they get sucked back inside, like Hank said. Also a test flight to prove out your contraption is helpful. You don't want to end up with a plane full of ashes as Tony mentioned. Pete |
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scattering ashes from SGS 2-33
On May 7, 4:51*am, thing73 wrote:
We have a request from a family member to scatter ashes from a recently deceased member. I know this type of operation can be problematic if not performed correctly. *Any ideas about using the back window of a SGS 2-33??? I have performed this honor for a good friend of mine a few years ago. But we did this from a Blanik L13 with the help of his widow.I am sure this could be done similarly with a 2-33. I found a cardboard tube, about 3" diameter, 18" long. Plugged the front end. Filled it with the remains than plugged the rear end with a string attached to the back lid, secured with a washer. We than hung this contraption to the side of the fusalage at a 45 degree angle down, attached to the canopy hinge (string again) and taping it secure to the side of the fusalage. The string got fed through the went and once airborne, she pulled the string, opening the lid and the remains went down and out. When we landed, there were a little bit left in the tube. If I had to do it again,I would also have the front lid removable, so all could just blow out. 6PK |
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scattering ashes from SGS 2-33
On Fri, 7 May 2010 04:51:41 -0700 (PDT), thing73
wrote: We have a request from a family member to scatter ashes from a recently deceased member. I know this type of operation can be problematic if not performed correctly. Any ideas about using the back window of a SGS 2-33??? Number one caution: No matter what method you select, try it out in private with ashes from your grill! This operation is VERY easy to screw up, and emotionally painful to the family if it blows up on you. Grill ashes will be somewhat less forgiving of error than human cremains will. If you look at the aircraft after the test, and you can't tell it just did an ash drop, you're good to go. rj |
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scattering ashes from SGS 2-33
On May 7, 1:45*pm, Ralph Jones wrote:
On Fri, 7 May 2010 04:51:41 -0700 (PDT), thing73 wrote: We have a request from a family member to scatter ashes from a recently deceased member. I know this type of operation can be problematic if not performed correctly. *Any ideas about using the back window of a SGS 2-33??? Number one caution: No matter what method you select, try it out in private with ashes from your grill! This operation is VERY easy to screw up, and emotionally painful to the family *if it blows up on you. Grill ashes will be somewhat less forgiving of error than human cremains will. If you look at the aircraft after the test, and you can't tell it just did an ash drop, you're good to go. rj I agree - was personally involved in one of these - small paper bag of ashes on a string out the back window of the 2-33. A quick jerk on the string was supposed to rip the bag open - result was a puff of ash - ashes in the cockpit and a grimy grey streak down the side of an orange plane - we landed, saw the mess and made sure the photos of pilots and relatives were on the clean side of the plane! PRACTICE FIRST! ( Then tell us how it went so we can put it into our clubs operations books for that once in five years call to do the same!) |
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scattering ashes from SGS 2-33
"Dave Newill" wrote in message ... result was a puff of ash - ashes in the cockpit and a grimy grey streak down the side of an orange plane - we landed, saw the mess and made sure the photos of pilots and relatives were on the clean side of the plane! PRACTICE FIRST! ( Then tell us how it went so we can put it into our clubs operations books for that once in five years call to do the same!) I have done this three times, but never from a glider. A slip keeps the ashes away from the side of the plane and seems to create a bit of a vacuum that sucks the ashes away from you. I have always managed without any special rigs. I just trickle the ashes out the window from the plastic bag they came in. Keep the family as far from the operation as possible. If necessary, gently explain to them why. There are just too many things that can go wrong. I present them with a sectional chart with the time and place marked. There will be a little metal ID tag either in with the ashes, or perhaps on the bag tie. Save it for the family. Vaughn |
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scattering ashes from SGS 2-33
On May 7, 4:51*am, thing73 wrote:
We have a request from a family member to scatter ashes from a recently deceased member. I know this type of operation can be problematic if not performed correctly. *Any ideas about using the back window of a SGS 2-33??? Maybe the first thing to ask is whether they wish all of the remains to be dropped from the 2-33. When a local club member was killed in a glider accident, several of his fellow racing pilots were each given a small container (35mm film can) to take on a cross country flight. Each pilot enjoyed the flight and said good bye in his own way before starting final glide home. It may be a lot easier to drop a token sample. Andy |
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