What is the single-engine small plane with the best range?

Wow, thank you very much for all your tips and insight.
I am presently in Waskaganish James Bay for a court session and it is
pretty hard to find an internet access so do not feel offended if it
sometimes takes long for me to answer your post.

Some people made comments on the weather and they were absolutly
right; the weather up north can turn really bad sometimes and in
january, it can go down to minus 50 celsius easily. Therefore I would
not use my plane as the only travel mean. I do not have the
experience to travel in snowstorm and I would surely use the
commercial planes for these kinds of weather.

As for the idea of using a Kit-plane, I have to agree that most of the
experimental planes seems to have 1000 nm range and minimum cruising
speed of 150 knots. However, I have to be honest with you and my tools
hability is pretty limited to putting the family BBQ together and I'm
not sure how easy it is to use an experimental aircraft for business
use

As for the destination I gave example of in my original letter, they
were all from my home town, thus Puvirnituq(over 800 statute miles)
would the longest run, they do not add together and there is always
community with airport every 300 miles or so, so refuelling is not a
problem per se, (I know a guy who went up north with a cessna 150,
took him almost two days...) the goal is more to make the experience
efficient since refuelling is really time-consuming.

And yes, I would be travelling over land with nothing but rocks and
water under me so I would probablyu want the Best ELT and I already
own a satellite phone.

As for the price range I guest it could be streched if it is justified

Thank you very much for yours comments again

Bob




"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ...
Doug wrote:

You really don't say how much range you need...

As I read it, he needs about 1900 statute miles plus reserves and something more
for wind. As I understand his post, one of his destinations is 850 miles away
and he would prefer to avoid having to refuel there.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

(Bob) wrote in message . com...

As for the idea of using a Kit-plane, I have to agree that most of the
experimental planes seems to have 1000 nm range and minimum cruising
speed of 150 knots. However, I have to be honest with you and my tools
hability is pretty limited to putting the family BBQ together and I'm
not sure how easy it is to use an experimental aircraft for business
use

i don't know the what the regulatory situation is in canada, but you might
consider buying a "used" homebuilt -- i happen to like the rv6a for this
mission -- and trade-a-plane has them (used) for $30K-$90K. probably
have to spend $60K to get a good one. all-metal, 160 kts or so on
what, 9 gph? 650 pounds useful less 250 for fuel leaves 400 for
pilot & luggage.

there is always
community with airport every 300 miles or so, so refuelling is not a
problem per se, (I know a guy who went up north with a cessna 150,
took him almost two days...) the goal is more to make the experience
efficient since refuelling is really time-consuming.

trips 550nm or so should be doable in an rv6a (3-1/2 hours), with
a single fuel stop for the longer trips. you'd need to stretch your legs
and take a leak after 3-1/2 anyway (imho).


As for the price range I guest it could be streched if it is justified

Thank you very much for yours comments again

Bob



bonnechance!

g_a

The tricycle gear Maule MXT-7-180 we just sold has 72 gallons, which I
figure to be 7-8 hours, no reserve. It's going to Europe and the ferry
company is not going to tank it - a pretty good indication of
excellent range. Speed is about 120 knots.

I don't know what the early one's sell for.

Mike

(Bob) wrote in message . com...
Hello,

I've been reading news on flying for quite a while and these seems to
be the most well-informed groups (the googles)writer on the net. I
would therefore like to have your personnal opinion on a question. I
live in Northern Quebec (Yes, I'm french speaking so forgive the
spelling mistakes) and practice as a lawyer in the Nordic region of
Quebec with native people (no road access), we always travel by plane
(Gruman G-1, dash-8 or twin otter) and, as everyone, I am limited to
the schedule of these companies. I would like to fly my own plane to
these community; I would be able to charge less to my client for
travelling, I would be able to use these portion of flying as tax
deductible (and parts of the plane expense) and that would give me the
possibility of mixing my career with flying. My town airport as a
10000 feet (yes almost two miles, it used to be military) airstrip and
we are located at 1016 feet ASL. The kind of places I would like to
go are Great-Whale (500 statute miles), Chisasibi (300 statute miles),
Kuujuaq(800 statute miles) and Puvirnituq (850 statute miles ), of
course I will be able to fuel between these objectives. My question
finally!

-From your personnal opinion what is the best small single-engine
plane for this kind of use?

-The number of seats is irrelevant, I don't intent to carry
passengers;
-the payload is irrelevant( except for fuel), I travel light;
-the speed is not a major item;
-I don't like taildagger, the crosswind can be strong up there;
-range is the major item, avgas or mogas is harder to get in the small
airport the northern community (You often have to buy the whole 45
gallons drum)so refuelling is very time-consuming;
-Price range would be less than 55,000 canadian $ (about 40,000 us$)

If you need more precision do not hesitate to contact me

Thank you very much for your collaboration,

Yours Truly

Bob

Province of Quebec, Canada

Comanche
180 or the 250 would do fine. My comanche 250 does an easy 150knts and
you can pull the throttle back and go as far as you can hold up. But if
its only you going I would do something smaller. An older glasair (dont
know if i spelled right). They are fast. And the speed to GPH ratio is
good. I would look into a homebuilt (that is already built).
But there are many different Planes that would do you just fine. Keep
your eye open.

Tony
N8389P

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On 16-Feb-2004, (Bob Miller) wrote:

My M20C with a couple of speed mods gets 145 ktas at 8 gph. At 54
gal, that's 6.75 hours of flight time....1000+ no-wind nm. You'll
find that the 15 knots start adding up when flying into a
headwind....the comment about icing was a good one, need to ask
yourself potential of having to delay for a day. Another question is
how you will really like the 7 hour flights? That's a long time.


The longest flight leg I've made in the Arrow was a shade under 6 hours.
Had almost 2 hours of fuel left onboard when we landed. The flight (with my
wife aboard) seemed pleasant enough. Autopilots earn their keep on flights
like that one.

I've flown in an M20C, and by comparison the cabin of the Arrow IV feels
like a limousine. An 870 nm flight in your M20C at 145 kts (which is a
GREAT speed for this airplane, by the way) would take 6 hrs. I am sure that
the 6.5 hours it would take in my Arrow (at 135 kts) would be more
comfortable.

That said, your Ranger is certainly one efficient airplane, something I
happen to appreciate.

--
-Elliott Drucker