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Ours or theirs? Foreign military aircraft based in the U.S. are required to have U.S. markings. I can remember a German F-104 flown by a civilian Lockheed pilot at MCAS El Toro. It came down from Burbank and was painted with a green preservative paint to somewhat cover the marking, but they were visible up close. It was there for testing a hook system and were using the field arresting gear. Leanne |
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There are 2 squadrons of German F4's at Holloman with all US Markings with
the exception of the Black, Red and Yellow stripes on the top of the tail. The HO on the tail is very dark and prominent. They are 2 tone grey. A very dark grey and a lighter grey. They are also kept spic and span. The QF4S's at Fallon in Sept were VX30 Jake On a side note, the same VX30 F4's were put to use as chase planes during the AF F22 program. "José Herculano" wrote in message ... Don't think so. I flew in RedFlag with brit and german A/C and they were marked like normally. That's because they were not based in the US. The F-4F that the Germans have for training in Holloman fly with US markings. _____________ José Herculano |
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Ed- Those at Red Flag would have been national force aircraft here on NATO
TDY. The Tornados and Phantoms down at Holloman have USAF star-and-bar on the fuselage and HO tail codes. Originally they had the black Luftwaffe iron cross on the fuselage side, but that was changed. BRBR Is that a post 9/11 thing or has that been the way it has always been? I never noticed. P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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In message , Jim
writes Jdf4cheval wrote: Thanks, Ed. I thought of that, but if so it didn't have the national marking stripes along the top of the Vertical Stab. Joe Ours or theirs? Foreign military aircraft based in the U.S. are required to have U.S. markings. Why? -- Peter Ying tong iddle-i po! |
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Peter Twydell wrote:
Jim writes Jdf4cheval wrote: Thanks, Ed. I thought of that, but if so it didn't have the national marking stripes along the top of the Vertical Stab. Joe Ours or theirs? Foreign military aircraft based in the U.S. are required to have U.S. markings. Why? Because years ago all of the black helicopter/konspiracy/tin hat brigade were citing the presence of those German-marked aircraft and their associated flight training program as proof-positive that NATO/The Bilderburgers/Various Other Nefarious Organizations had taken over the United States and all of its military forces. Since sanity is not required of U. S. Citizens, obviously the U. S. Gummint and the German gummint felt it was easier just to put US markings on the aircraft [with the German colors on the tail], than to waste time fooling with nutcases. I don't even know that it was the result of an act of Congress rather than just being an agreement between the two governments. -- OJ III [Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading. Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.] |
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"F9pnthr" wrote in message ... While visiting the flightline at NAS Fallon in early September, I photographed a Phantom taking off. On examining the photo today, it appears to be an F-4E from the nose configuration. Also, it's a darker grey than the navy aircraft in other photos. Does anyone have any thoughts on what this aircraft mey be? Civilian contractor using it as a testbed? The QF4 sounds right. I just wanted to point out another possibilty. |
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In message , Ogden Johnson
III writes Peter Twydell wrote: Jim writes Jdf4cheval wrote: Thanks, Ed. I thought of that, but if so it didn't have the national marking stripes along the top of the Vertical Stab. Joe Ours or theirs? Foreign military aircraft based in the U.S. are required to have U.S. markings. Why? Because years ago all of the black helicopter/konspiracy/tin hat brigade were citing the presence of those German-marked aircraft and their associated flight training program as proof-positive that NATO/The Bilderburgers/Various Other Nefarious Organizations had taken over the United States and all of its military forces. Since sanity is not required of U. S. Citizens, obviously the U. S. Gummint and the German gummint felt it was easier just to put US markings on the aircraft [with the German colors on the tail], than to waste time fooling with nutcases. I don't even know that it was the result of an act of Congress rather than just being an agreement between the two governments. I'd like to think that answer was a joke; as my Dad used to say: "Ask a silly question, and you'll get a silly answer". No smiley, or obvious pointers to humour, or other versions, so I have the horrible feeling it might be true. -- Peter Ying tong iddle-i po! |
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"Peter Twydell" wrote in message ... No smiley, or obvious pointers to humour, or other versions, so I have the horrible feeling it might be true. In 1966, I'm sure that the sensitivities of WWII veterans was more of a concern. |
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