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Dan Luke wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote: I'm no supporter of the Catholic church, so I won't argue with you there. The Catholic church doesn't follow the Bible in many ways and much of what they believe in and do is simply not supported by scripture and often outright condemned. I know most Catholics would disagree, but I don't consider Catholicism to be Christianity as they tend to elevate Mary to a level equal to or even higher than Christ. In discussions like this it usually isn't long before the retreating Christian pulls out the old "no true Scotsman" argument. You can believe whatever you want. But Baptists haven't agreed with Catholic views for a lot longer than I've been around. Matt |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote: "No true Scotsman..." |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote: So you indoctrinate them into the religion of "free thinking", philosophy, etc. I was just curious. Another tired argument commonly used by dogmatists. "Everything is religion, so my religion makes just as much sense as anything else." |
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:20:43 -0500, Matt Whiting
wrote: Claiming something doesn't make it so. The Bible says that by their works you will know them. Hitler's works clearly weren't Christian, therefore he wasn't. I can claim to be the President of the United States, but that doesn't make it so. Matt "Show me a shred of evidence" he says, "that Hitler was a Christian". So I shows him several shreds, I does. "Evidence don't mean anything" he now says. "I believe what I want to believe". An essential trait for the religious, I think. |
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:10:03 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
] wrote: Actually, It's "Thou shalt not MURDER" (Lost a little something in translation). There is no general prohibition of "killing" in the Bible, which also spells out the conditions in which killing a human is allowed. No problem then, fire away... Repeat of old Quaker joke: Old farmer hears a ruckus out in the barn late one night. Climbs out of bed in his nightshirt, grabs the blunderbuss over the mantle, lights a lantern and waddles out to the barn. He throws open the barn door to observe a thief in the middle of attempting to steal his horse. Leveling the blunderbuss at the would be thief, he portends: "Friend, I would not hurt thee for all the world, but thee's standing where I'm about to shoot." Corky Scott |
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:49:32 -0600, "Dan Luke"
wrote: "Matt Whiting" wrote: "No true Scotsman..." You know, I don't know how we overlooked, in all this discussion, that great American christian group known as the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. Now there's a fine collection of religious fellows if there ever was one. |
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I'm no supporter of the Catholic church, so I won't argue with you there.
The Catholic church doesn't follow the Bible in many ways and much of what they believe in and do is simply not supported by scripture and often outright condemned. I know most Catholics would disagree, but I don't consider Catholicism to be Christianity as they tend to elevate Mary to a level equal to or even higher than Christ. Whoo-whee! Man, if only I had the guts to have said something like this to the nuns back at good ol' St. Catherine's High School, in Racine, WI. (Class of '76) Dang, I'd STILL be walking with a limp... ;-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Not this one. In Texas, no less.
"Dena Schlosser, 35, was charged with capital murder Monday after calmly telling a 911 operator that she had cut off the arms of 11-month old Margaret. Police found Schlosser sitting in her living room, covered in blood, a church hymn playing in the background." Now, come on. I think it's safe to say that people of ALL religions and beliefs would classify this lady as mentally ill. Although some might call it "possessed"? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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