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"John Clonts" wrote in message ... Ok, I'd like to learn something from this... When you call ATC to get a clearance... ...if you're in the air and you've filed through FSS, when you call ATC, its not a pop-up. ...if you're in the air but not already filed through FSS, it's considered a "pop-up" ...if you're not in the air and not already filed through FSS, it's not considered a "pop-up"? Is there a different name you call it? I see that "pop-up" is not in the PC/G. I assume that it's also not defined in 7110. That being the case we're talking about an informal term anyway. I'm just curious (and surprised) that a call from the ramp to CD for an IFR clearance (not already on file) is NOT considered by controllers a "pop-up". "Pop-up" is not defined anywhere. It's my observation, from context, that most pilots consider a pop-up to be any airborne pickup of an IFR clearance. I share that opinion. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net... "John Clonts" wrote in message ... Ok, I'd like to learn something from this... When you call ATC to get a clearance... ...if you're in the air and you've filed through FSS, when you call ATC, its not a pop-up. ...if you're in the air but not already filed through FSS, it's considered a "pop-up" ...if you're not in the air and not already filed through FSS, it's not considered a "pop-up"? Is there a different name you call it? I see that "pop-up" is not in the PC/G. I assume that it's also not defined in 7110. That being the case we're talking about an informal term anyway. I'm just curious (and surprised) that a call from the ramp to CD for an IFR clearance (not already on file) is NOT considered by controllers a "pop-up". "Pop-up" is not defined anywhere. It's my observation, from context, that most pilots consider a pop-up to be any airborne pickup of an IFR clearance. I share that opinion. Good enough! |
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