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After so many hours in the ultra sensitive R22, airplanes are a cinch. Matt Whiting wrote: The issue is energy management and the source of energy can be airspeed or power. Your statement above reminds me of that great video of Hoover doing aerobatics in with power off. What a pilot huh? Monk |
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Flyingmonk wrote:
After so many hours in the ultra sensitive R22, airplanes are a cinch. Matt Whiting wrote: The issue is energy management and the source of energy can be airspeed or power. Your statement above reminds me of that great video of Hoover doing aerobatics in with power off. What a pilot huh? Yes, absolutely. Bob was a joy to watch. He didn't believe all of this crap about needing power to do stuff, even in fairly high performance airplanes. He just went out and did it. Energy is energy, doesn't matter if it is provided by the engine(s) or by airspeed or by altitude. All can be used to achieve the desired outcome. Matt |
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Bob is absolutely one of the world's finest pilots, and probably the
smoothest aerobatic pilot I have ever known. You are correct about the Shrike routine. It was indeed a study in EM (energy management). It's interesting to note for the group at large, that 500RA (Bob's Shrike) was maintained by Byerly Aviation in Florida for the 20 years Bob had the airplane. Byerly made several modifications to the bird that made Bob's wonderful routine possible. 500RA had an accumulator that stored hydraulic pressure that allowed Bob to lower the gear inverted with both fans feathered, and also a special setup for unfeathering both props. Bob would pull both fans back into feather without having to idle back the throttles and mixtures. The restart was made possible by micro-switches that triggered electric pumps that unfeathered the props for him. The accumulator also stored enough pressure to give Bob nosewheel steering for his "dead stick landings". Bob, by his very survival in the low altitude aerobatic environment for as long as he was in it, and flying a variety of airplanes to boot, has established himself as truly one of the world's all time best in the business. Bob was one of the initial charter members of the International Fighter Pilots Fellowship that I founded in 1971. In every contact I have had with him through the years, he has always been a gracious friend and a quiet force in our community. Dudley Henriques "Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... Flyingmonk wrote: After so many hours in the ultra sensitive R22, airplanes are a cinch. Matt Whiting wrote: The issue is energy management and the source of energy can be airspeed or power. Your statement above reminds me of that great video of Hoover doing aerobatics in with power off. What a pilot huh? Yes, absolutely. Bob was a joy to watch. He didn't believe all of this crap about needing power to do stuff, even in fairly high performance airplanes. He just went out and did it. Energy is energy, doesn't matter if it is provided by the engine(s) or by airspeed or by altitude. All can be used to achieve the desired outcome. Matt |
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I saw Mr. Hoover and the Shrike at Salina, KS many years
ago. It is very impressive in person, but he missed the spot on the ramp when he rolled back in, by about 6 inches. Thanks for the info on the modifications to the Commander. Jim "Dudley Henriques" wrote in message link.net... | Bob is absolutely one of the world's finest pilots, and probably the | smoothest aerobatic pilot I have ever known. | You are correct about the Shrike routine. It was indeed a study in EM | (energy management). | It's interesting to note for the group at large, that 500RA (Bob's Shrike) | was maintained by Byerly Aviation in Florida for the 20 years Bob had the | airplane. | Byerly made several modifications to the bird that made Bob's wonderful | routine possible. | 500RA had an accumulator that stored hydraulic pressure that allowed Bob to | lower the gear inverted with both fans feathered, and also a special setup | for unfeathering both props. Bob would pull both fans back into feather | without having to idle back the throttles and mixtures. The restart was made | possible by micro-switches that triggered electric pumps that unfeathered | the props for him. | The accumulator also stored enough pressure to give Bob nosewheel steering | for his "dead stick landings". | Bob, by his very survival in the low altitude aerobatic environment for as | long as he was in it, and flying a variety of airplanes to boot, has | established himself as truly one of the world's all time best in the | business. | Bob was one of the initial charter members of the International Fighter | Pilots Fellowship that I founded in 1971. In every contact I have had with | him through the years, he has always been a gracious friend and a quiet | force in our community. | Dudley Henriques | | | | "Matt Whiting" wrote in message | ... | Flyingmonk wrote: | | After so many hours in the ultra sensitive R22, airplanes are a cinch. | | Matt Whiting wrote: | | The issue is energy management and the | source of energy can be airspeed or power. | | | Your statement above reminds me of that great video of Hoover doing | aerobatics in with power off. What a pilot huh? | | Yes, absolutely. Bob was a joy to watch. He didn't believe all of this | crap about needing power to do stuff, even in fairly high performance | airplanes. He just went out and did it. Energy is energy, doesn't matter | if it is provided by the engine(s) or by airspeed or by altitude. All can | be used to achieve the desired outcome. | | | Matt | | |
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I had the pleasure of flying with Bob about 4 months ago, to a dedication of
a new airport in Idaho. http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/kgr...0__medium_.jpg Karl "Curator" N185KG We discussed his straw hat "Dudley Henriques" wrote in message link.net... Bob is absolutely one of the world's finest pilots, and probably the smoothest aerobatic pilot I have ever known. You are correct about the Shrike routine. It was indeed a study in EM (energy management). It's interesting to note for the group at large, that 500RA (Bob's Shrike) was maintained by Byerly Aviation in Florida for the 20 years Bob had the airplane. Byerly made several modifications to the bird that made Bob's wonderful routine possible. 500RA had an accumulator that stored hydraulic pressure that allowed Bob to lower the gear inverted with both fans feathered, and also a special setup for unfeathering both props. Bob would pull both fans back into feather without having to idle back the throttles and mixtures. The restart was made possible by micro-switches that triggered electric pumps that unfeathered the props for him. The accumulator also stored enough pressure to give Bob nosewheel steering for his "dead stick landings". Bob, by his very survival in the low altitude aerobatic environment for as long as he was in it, and flying a variety of airplanes to boot, has established himself as truly one of the world's all time best in the business. Bob was one of the initial charter members of the International Fighter Pilots Fellowship that I founded in 1971. In every contact I have had with him through the years, he has always been a gracious friend and a quiet force in our community. Dudley Henriques "Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... Flyingmonk wrote: After so many hours in the ultra sensitive R22, airplanes are a cinch. Matt Whiting wrote: The issue is energy management and the source of energy can be airspeed or power. Your statement above reminds me of that great video of Hoover doing aerobatics in with power off. What a pilot huh? Yes, absolutely. Bob was a joy to watch. He didn't believe all of this crap about needing power to do stuff, even in fairly high performance airplanes. He just went out and did it. Energy is energy, doesn't matter if it is provided by the engine(s) or by airspeed or by altitude. All can be used to achieve the desired outcome. Matt |
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"karl gruber" wrote in message ... I had the pleasure of flying with Bob about 4 months ago, to a dedication of a new airport in Idaho. http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/kgr...0__medium_.jpg Karl "Curator" N185KG We discussed his straw hat God, I hope that isn't the same Plantation hat he's been sitting on in the P51 for the last 30 years. That thing must be falling apart by now. I think he's worn it since day one. Some of us even had a bet going at one time that he wore it to bed at night!! :-)) Dudley Henriques |
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Dudley Henriques wrote: God, I hope that isn't the same Plantation hat he's been sitting on in the P51 for the last 30 years. That thing must be falling apart by now. I think he's worn it since day one. Some of us even had a bet going at one time that he wore it to bed at night!! :-)) Dudley Henriques Dudley, FWIW, they have "a" Panama Hat of Bob's at the NASM Udvar-Hazy facility. Dunno if it's "the" hat or if he just donated one from his collection. Jay B |
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
Bob is absolutely one of the world's finest pilots, and probably the smoothest aerobatic pilot I have ever known. You are correct about the Shrike routine. It was indeed a study in EM (energy management). It's interesting to note for the group at large, that 500RA (Bob's Shrike) was maintained by Byerly Aviation in Florida for the 20 years Bob had the airplane. Byerly made several modifications to the bird that made Bob's wonderful routine possible. 500RA had an accumulator that stored hydraulic pressure that allowed Bob to lower the gear inverted with both fans feathered, and also a special setup for unfeathering both props. Bob would pull both fans back into feather without having to idle back the throttles and mixtures. The restart was made possible by micro-switches that triggered electric pumps that unfeathered the props for him. The accumulator also stored enough pressure to give Bob nosewheel steering for his "dead stick landings". Bob, by his very survival in the low altitude aerobatic environment for as long as he was in it, and flying a variety of airplanes to boot, has established himself as truly one of the world's all time best in the business. Bob was one of the initial charter members of the International Fighter Pilots Fellowship that I founded in 1971. In every contact I have had with him through the years, he has always been a gracious friend and a quiet force in our community. Dudley Henriques Yes, I'd love to have the chance to fly with him, but know that will never happen. I got to shake has hand and chat VERY briefly with him after an airshow at ELM, probably in the late 70s. I likely will never get closer to him that that, but watching him fly was simply awesome. He obtained every bit of performance that was available from the airplane while remaining within its structural envelope. Matt |
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Jim Macklin wrote:
I saw Mr. Hoover and the Shrike at Salina, KS many years ago. It is very impressive in person, but he missed the spot on the ramp when he rolled back in, by about 6 inches. Oh, the shame if it all. :-) Matt |
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karl gruber wrote:
I had the pleasure of flying with Bob about 4 months ago, to a dedication of a new airport in Idaho. http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/kgr...0__medium_.jpg The picture is nice, but tell us more! Matt |
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