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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
Jim Logajan wrote in
: Phil J wrote: On Mar 3, 7:16*pm, " wrote: "Poison gas" was used extensively during the Great War. One of the post-war conclusions was that it was more trouble than it was worth and had only limited tactical value. The environmental conditions had to be just so, and often the burden placed on friendly troops reduced their own combat effectiveness. The reason the Axis was so reluctant to employ such weapons was more practical than moral -- contrary prevailing winds, and a tactical emphasis on the offensive made gas unattractive as a battlefield weapon. The only great unknown is why the Germans didn't use it in the last throes of the Reich. That is a mystery. Hitler was temporarily blinded by mustard gas in WWI. So that may have had some influence (excepting the use of gas in concentration camps - Hitler suggested using poison gas on Jews in Mein Kampf, where he also recounted his experience in WWI with mustard gas.) In fact Wikipedia claims a cite in support of the following statement: "One notable poison gas casualty of the Great War was Adolf Hitler, who was temporarily blinded. As a result, Hitler adamantly refused to authorise the use of poison gas on the battlefield during World War II, for fear of retaliation.[32]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_...in_World_War_I Trivia: Hitler allegedly originally wore a "Kaiser" style mustache at the start of WWI but was ordered to clip it to the now-infamous "Toothbrush" style so it would fit under the respirator masks used during mustard gas attacks. Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toothbrush_moustache Wow. You would wonder how he came upon that style, allright. I suppose I always just assumed it was fashionable in it's day. Bertie |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
On Mar 4, 12:00 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
So the "target of jokesters" supports your conclusion that...? Sorry.. having a hard time keeping up. ::YAWN:: For a supposedly educated man, you sure have a short attention span. Oh, well. If you wish to continue this slightly interesting discussion, let me know. It's a topic of great interest. Meanwhile, back to flying. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Hunh? What? Did you say something? |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
" wrote in
: On Mar 4, 12:00 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote: So the "target of jokesters" supports your conclusion that...? Sorry.. having a hard time keeping up. ::YAWN:: For a supposedly educated man, you sure have a short attention span. Oh, well. If you wish to continue this slightly interesting discussion, let me know. It's a topic of great interest. Meanwhile, back to flying. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Hunh? What? Did you say something? Careful. You'll end up in his "killfile" Bwahahwahwhahwhhahw! Bertie |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
On Mar 3, 10:00 pm, Phil J wrote:
I suppose there is always the "desperate times call for desperate measures" argument. But the kind of horrible, painful death you get from poison gas just seems to put it into a different category. True, yet in the Pacific, there seemed to be no concern about horror -- flamethrowers weren't very nice. Except for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But as bad as they were, more Japanese were killed by the incendiary bombs we dropped than by the atomic bombs. True, and all the revisionists should remember that. There were plans being made in the American military to use atomic bombs to soften up the beaches if it became necessary to invade Japan. They didn't realize the effects the radiation would have had on our troops when they came ashore. That would have been a catastrophe for both sides. Not by those manufacturing the bombs -- we only had two, and we used them. The inventory didn't increase until long after the Japanese surrender. Surprisingly (to me), the most expensive weapon system America developed during World War II was not the atomic bomb. It was the B-29 that dropped it. Phil Per unit, or overall? That doesn't seem right -- there were tens of thousands working at Oak Ridge.... Atomic bombs were dropped on those two Japanese cities, but MAD was not yet a strategic consideration --- the Japanese couldn't retaliate in kind. MAD doctrine evolved as the US and USSR realized the potential within each arsenal (MAD wasn't formulated as a doctrine until McNamara in the 60s). Dan |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
miguel wrote:
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:12:07 -0500, Daedalus wrote: Why weren't the French involved in this conversation? Jade Probably because they speak poopytalk. Pauvre con avec ton langage enfantin. Toi, évidemment, tu ne piges rien que l'amerloque et, sans doute, t'exprime comme un crétin dans cette 'langue', ainsi tu te sens obligé de montrer à quel point tu es inculte avec l'utilisation des mots qu'on laisse tomber après la crèche. C'est un anglais qui te parle, car ici on Europe on considère la culture d'être une bonne chose. |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
On Mar 4, 7:52 am, "John of Aix" wrote:
Probably because they speak poopytalk. Pauvre con avec ton langage enfantin. Toi, évidemment, tu ne piges rien que l'amerloque et, sans doute, t'exprime comme un crétin dans cette 'langue', ainsi tu te sens obligé de montrer à quel point tu es inculte avec l'utilisation des mots qu'on laisse tomber après la crèche. C'est un anglais qui te parle, car ici on Europe on considère la culture d'être une bonne chose. Bravo! |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:37:32 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie
the Bunyip bloviated: Aratzio wrote in : My nephew was stationed at Aviano. My brother and I went over and spent 2 weeks at the time of the kid's 21st Bday. I could live around there. Yeah. i don't know of Aviano. Whart part? I haven;t been in the south much except for just quick visits, but I'd like to see more of that part. Sorrento, Sicily and so on.. So many places, so little time.. Bertie North east, north of Venice and just south of the Alps. We were staying in the town of Pordenone. |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
Aratzio wrote in
: On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:37:32 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie the Bunyip bloviated: Aratzio wrote in m: My nephew was stationed at Aviano. My brother and I went over and spent 2 weeks at the time of the kid's 21st Bday. I could live around there. Yeah. i don't know of Aviano. Whart part? I haven;t been in the south much except for just quick visits, but I'd like to see more of that part. Sorrento, Sicily and so on.. So many places, so little time.. Bertie North east, north of Venice and just south of the Alps. We were staying in the town of Pordenone. Ah, nice. Not so much this time of the year. That damp off the Alps is chilly1 Bertie |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:52:19 +0100, "John of Aix"
wrote: miguel wrote: On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:12:07 -0500, Daedalus wrote: Why weren't the French involved in this conversation? Jade Probably because they speak poopytalk. Pauvre con avec ton langage enfantin. Toi, évidemment, tu ne piges rien que l'amerloque et, sans doute, t'exprime comme un crétin dans cette 'langue', ainsi tu te sens obligé de montrer à quel point tu es inculte avec l'utilisation des mots qu'on laisse tomber après la crèche. C'est un anglais qui te parle, car ici on Europe on considère la culture d'être une bonne chose. Usenet would be generally improved if all poopytalkers like John of Aix would Remove Themselves Altogether. |
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