15 Meter Worlds John and Dave

John Seaborn, Dave Leonard, fly the Duck Hawk at the Worlds, there is still time. We all know that the Duck Hawk is as good or better than any 15 meter ship out there, why not help out an American Sailplane company that is creating jobs and showing the world that a small American company can compete.. Take a risk, how much more of a risk is it for Dick Butler to fly the Concorida that has not flown in any compition than to fly the Duck Hawk? Do the right thing, take a chance, like Moffet did with the Nimbus. Show the world. All it takes is a call and the Duck Hawk would be on its way. You may find that the Duck Hawk gives you just enough advantage to win.

Take a chance, what have you got to loose?

On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:32:14 AM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:

Take a chance, what have you got to loose?

How about you take a chance and let us know who you are?

Do you walk around with a paper bag over your head in public?

Hard to take someone seriously if he is anonymous...

Ps: It's spelled "lose"

Kirk
66

On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:32:14 AM UTC-6, (unknown) wrote:
John Seaborn, Dave Leonard, fly the Duck Hawk at the Worlds, there is still time. We all know that the Duck Hawk is as good or better than any 15 meter ship out there, why not help out an American Sailplane company that is creating jobs and showing the world that a small American company can compete. Take a risk, how much more of a risk is it for Dick Butler to fly the Concorida that has not flown in any compition than to fly the Duck Hawk? Do the right thing, take a chance, like Moffet did with the Nimbus. Show the world. All it takes is a call and the Duck Hawk would be on its way. You may find that the Duck Hawk gives you just enough advantage to win.

Take a chance, what have you got to loose?

Dear Unknown,
Is there any particular reason that you prefer to remain unknown?
Thx - Renny

I bet a lot of us out there are thinking the same thing. So what if the poster wishes to remain anonymous? If it is someone associated with Windward.... so what! Or do you think it is more nefarious than that?

And yes, I've flown for Greg and Windward performance in a Sparrowhawk. Having done that, the Sparrowhawk was way better than I had been led to believe by "popular" knowledge. I have a feeling that the Duckhawk lives up to its specs and more. If you've got the best on your shores... why not use it?

Sincerely,
Tim McAllister EY

On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:16:14 AM UTC-7, kirk.stant wrote:
On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:32:14 AM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:

Take a chance, what have you got to loose?

How about you take a chance and let us know who you are?

Do you walk around with a paper bag over your head in public?

Hard to take someone seriously if he is anonymous...

Ps: It's spelled "lose"

Kirk
66

Kirk,
It is not about if I have a bag over my head or am not to be taken seriously it is about supporting American built sailplane that has been proven to kick ass. Look into it, educate yourself, by the way who are you? I will tell you this, I am nobody and my opinion means nothing because nothing will change unless people like you change by looking at the facts and start asking "why isn't the Duck Hawk at the worlds?. Sorry about my spelling.
You can call me God.

On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:49:13 AM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:
I bet a lot of us out there are thinking the same thing. So what if the poster wishes to remain anonymous? If it is someone associated with Windward.... so what! Or do you think it is more nefarious than that?

And yes, I've flown for Greg and Windward performance in a Sparrowhawk. Having done that, the Sparrowhawk was way better than I had been led to believe by "popular" knowledge. I have a feeling that the Duckhawk lives up to its specs and more. If you've got the best on your shores.... why not use it?

Sincerely,
Tim McAllister EY

Just forgot to put my name in.

Well darn, Tim, its nice to communicate with a real person!

Agreed it would be nice to see a Duckhawk at the worlds; has it been offered to any of our team?

Kirk
6

On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:12:20 -0500, wrote:

On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:16:14 AM UTC-7, kirk.stant wrote:
On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:32:14 AM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:

Take a chance, what have you got to loose?

How about you take a chance and let us know who you are?

Do you walk around with a paper bag over your head in public?

Hard to take someone seriously if he is anonymous...

Ps: It's spelled "lose"

Kirk
66

Kirk,
It is not about if I have a bag over my head or am not to be taken
seriously it is about supporting American built sailplane that has been
proven to kick ass. Look into it, educate yourself, by the way who are
you? I will tell you this, I am nobody and my opinion means nothing
because nothing will change unless people like you change by looking at
the facts and start asking "why isn't the Duck Hawk at the worlds?.
Sorry about my spelling.
You can call me God.

....or you could do a quick Google search and find out that the e-mail has
been used by one Mr. John Bentley of Bend, OR. If you're an SSA member,
you can locate his particulars.

If Mr. Bentley (aka God) is truly trying be be nefariously anonymous, he
is doing a bad job.

For the record, I think it would be great if the US team flew a US glider,
regardless of Mr. Bentley's affiliation (or lack thereof) with the
manufacturer of said glider. But there are a million logistical issues
that would make this difficult to pull off before this WGC.

--
Stefan Murry

On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:21:33 PM UTC-7, S. Murry wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:12:20 -0500, > wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:16:14 AM UTC-7, kirk.stant wrote:
>> On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:32:14 AM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:
>>
>> Take a chance, what have you got to loose?
>>
>> How about you take a chance and let us know who you are?
>>
>> Do you walk around with a paper bag over your head in public?
>>
>> Hard to take someone seriously if he is anonymous...
>>
>> Ps: It's spelled "lose"
>>
>> Kirk
>> 66
>
> Kirk,
> It is not about if I have a bag over my head or am not to be taken
> seriously it is about supporting American built sailplane that has been
> proven to kick ass. Look into it, educate yourself, by the way who are
> you? I will tell you this, I am nobody and my opinion means nothing
> because nothing will change unless people like you change by looking at
> the facts and start asking "why isn't the Duck Hawk at the worlds?.
> Sorry about my spelling.
> You can call me God.

...or you could do a quick Google search and find out that the e-mail has
been used by one Mr. John Bentley of Bend, OR. If you're an SSA member,
you can locate his particulars.

If Mr. Bentley (aka God) is truly trying be be nefariously anonymous, he
is doing a bad job.

For the record, I think it would be great if the US team flew a US glider,
regardless of Mr. Bentley's affiliation (or lack thereof) with the
manufacturer of said glider. But there are a million logistical issues
that would make this difficult to pull off before this WGC.

--
Stefan Murry

This is God,
I truly did just forgot to put my name in the box. I just want to put this out there to stir up the pot and yes I am a supporter of Windward but do not work there. I just believe that given the chance the Duck Hawk would do very well if not win at the WGC (my opinion). It is my hope that the soaring comunity will ask the same question and maybe just maybe somthing will happen. I think we all agree that having a US made sailplane in the WGC is important but it is not up to us but important that the opinon of the soaring comunity be known one way or another. It is our team. It is hard enough to design, build, and produce a composit sailplane that is maybe a little diffrent but it seems even harder to change the way we think even if the proof is right in our face.

Anything can be accompilshed if you try.
John

On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:41:40 PM UTC-4, John wrote:
On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:21:33 PM UTC-7, S. Murry wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:12:20 -0500, > wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:16:14 AM UTC-7, kirk.stant wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:32:14 AM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:
> >>
> >> Take a chance, what have you got to loose?
> >>
> >> How about you take a chance and let us know who you are?
> >>
> >> Do you walk around with a paper bag over your head in public?
> >>
> >> Hard to take someone seriously if he is anonymous....
> >>
> >> Ps: It's spelled "lose"
> >>
> >> Kirk
> >> 66
> >
> > Kirk,
> > It is not about if I have a bag over my head or am not to be taken
> > seriously it is about supporting American built sailplane that has been
> > proven to kick ass. Look into it, educate yourself, by the way who are
> > you? I will tell you this, I am nobody and my opinion means nothing
> > because nothing will change unless people like you change by looking at
> > the facts and start asking "why isn't the Duck Hawk at the worlds?.
> > Sorry about my spelling.
> > You can call me God.
>
> ...or you could do a quick Google search and find out that the e-mail has
> been used by one Mr. John Bentley of Bend, OR. If you're an SSA member,
> you can locate his particulars.
>
> If Mr. Bentley (aka God) is truly trying be be nefariously anonymous, he
> is doing a bad job.
>
> For the record, I think it would be great if the US team flew a US glider,
> regardless of Mr. Bentley's affiliation (or lack thereof) with the
> manufacturer of said glider. But there are a million logistical issues
> that would make this difficult to pull off before this WGC.
>
> --
> Stefan Murry

This is God,
I truly did just forgot to put my name in the box. I just want to put this out there to stir up the pot and yes I am a supporter of Windward but do not work there. I just believe that given the chance the Duck Hawk would do very well if not win at the WGC (my opinion). It is my hope that the soaring comunity will ask the same question and maybe just maybe somthing will happen. I think we all agree that having a US made sailplane in the WGC is important but it is not up to us but important that the opinon of the soaring comunity be known one way or another. It is our team. It is hard enough to design, build, and produce a composit sailplane that is maybe a little diffrent but it seems even harder to change the way we think even if the proof is right in our face.

Anything can be accompilshed if you try.
John

Mr Unknown- Your enthusiasm and national pride are obvious.
What is also obvious is that you do not have the faintest clue what it takes to prepare a pilot and sailplane to compete in the Worlds.
John Seaborn has been working on his Ventus for a year in preparation for Uvalde.
That kind of readiness doesn't happen in a week because you wish it.
Additionally, our pilots have been training extensively in the gliders they will fly. It takes a good number of hours with a new ship to learn to get the most out of it. The Worlds is not the place to do that.
The Duck Hawk has had some encouraging results in the hands of Chip Garner. He flew a great race at Mifflin and was one of the 2 pilots that managed to avoid one or more disasters. The limited time I flew with it in my ASW-27 indicated to me that it appears competitive, but I never felt disadvantaged.
It is good that Greg and crew are doing this project. I wish them luck.
That said, it isn't the time to switch horses.
For the record I am Hank Nixon
UH