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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ... Thor Kuntelin wrote: ... On the other hand Denys Stocks successfully showed that the stone can indeed be worked using copper tools and quartz sand. The sand lies between the tool and the stone block and does the cutting nicely. Sand is not exactly rare in Egypt. see Experiments in Egyptian Archaeology: Stoneworking Technology in Ancient Egypt Denys A. Stocks Keith Jewelers have been cutting stones with hard grit pressed into copper from Egyptian Dynastic times right up to today: http://lapidarytool.com/cart/lapidar...ps/cat_75.html http://www.usfacetersguild.org/artic..._scoring_laps/ http://www.eeescience.utoledo.edu/fa...tones_text.htm jsw |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:57:30 -0400, Thor Kuntelin wrote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:59:32 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote: Thor Kuntelin wrote: On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 19:30:00 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote: Maybe they did. It wasn't a bunch of Chinese, Aztecs, Egyptians or, for that matter, anyone today that could build, much less build in the constraints of time that occurred, the pyramids of subject. Except for the minor problem that we know that the blocks of stone used to build the pyramids were worked with stone and copper tools. In fact attempts have been made to prove that the pyramid could be constructed using the known ancient Egyptian tools and methods. Egyptologist Mark Lehner has made an attempt with a large group of people but failed to even create a 6 m scale model of the pyramid. A Japanese team funded by Nissan made another attempt to create an 18 m high scale model using the same primitive ancient Egyptian tools such as chisels and hammers. The once so proud Japanese team returned home disillusioned and embarrassed, since they had to use jackhammers to cut the hard stone, only small blocks were carved from the quarry. On the other hand Denys Stocks successfully showed that the stone can indeed be worked using copper tools and quartz sand. Except not one copper tool was found on the entire Giza Plateau. The pyramid is much older than claimed and must have been built by a culture far superior to the Egyptians. Even today we simply don˘t have the technology to build an edifice like the Great Pyramid. The reason why Egyptologists and pyramidiots cling on to their own archaic theories is that they have no other choice but to defend them. Many Egyptologists and pyramidiots are Muslim and the Koran simply states that the Earth is no older than 4000 years. So they simply don˘t buy any theory that may date the Great Pyramid to a timeframe before the established date of construction 2589 B.C As Keel says in Disneyland of the Gods: "We know that pyramid building was once a universal practice throughout the world. Over six thousand years ago unknown peoples were assembling great pyramids in Mexico. Gigantic man-made mounds were constructed in China, Great Britain, North America, and on remote Pacific islands while the Egyptians were still living in mud huts along the Nile." |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:43:56 -0400, Tom wrote:
rofl Pyramidiots fail to see that these "primitive" stone and chisel users were somehow master mathematicians with highly advanced geometrical capabilities. To wit: The mathematic value of Pi defines the ratio of the circumference to the diameter of a circle found in the pyramid math. pi can be found taking twice the base length of the pyramid divided by its height: pi = 2 * 440/280 = 880/280 = 22/7 approximating pi = 3.14159. Perhaps pi was never specifically calculated, but its value became incorporated to a very high degree of accuracy for and by future generations to discover. Of course, after "chiseling" to perfection the blocks of granite (nary a human hair can fit in a joint), they would wipe of their sweat, take a dip in the Nile and resume mathematical excellence. Of course. One of the first archaeologists to carry out a thorough survey of the Pyramid was Petrie, who was particularly struck by the granite coffer in the King˘s Chamber. The precision with which the coffer had been carved out of a /single block of extremely hard granite/ struck him as quite remarkable. Petrie estimated that diamond-tipped drills would need to have been applied with a pressure of two tons, in order to hollow out the granite box. It was not a serious suggestion as to the method actually used but simply his way of expressing the *impossibility* of creating that artifact using nineteenth century technology. It is still a difficult challenge, even with twentieth century technology. And yet we are supposed to believe that Khufu achieved this at a time when the Egyptians possessed only the most basic copper hand tools? Or well before hand tools were even used? -- Thor Kuntelin http://www.anta.com/ |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:00:22 -0400, Thor Kuntelin wrote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:43:56 -0400, Tom wrote: rofl Pyramidiots fail to see that these "primitive" stone and chisel users were somehow master mathematicians with highly advanced geometrical capabilities. To wit: The mathematic value of Pi defines the ratio of the circumference to the diameter of a circle found in the pyramid math. pi can be found taking twice the base length of the pyramid divided by its height: pi = 2 * 440/280 = 880/280 = 22/7 approximating pi = 3.14159. Perhaps pi was never specifically calculated, but its value became incorporated to a very high degree of accuracy for and by future generations to discover. Of course, after "chiseling" to perfection the blocks of granite (nary a human hair can fit in a joint), they would wipe of their sweat, take a dip in the Nile and resume mathematical excellence. Of course. One of the first archaeologists to carry out a thorough survey of the Pyramid was Petrie, who was particularly struck by the granite coffer in the King˙s Chamber. The precision with which the coffer had been carved out of a /single block of extremely hard granite/ struck him as quite remarkable. Petrie estimated that diamond-tipped drills would need to have been applied with a pressure of two tons, in order to hollow out the granite box. It was not a serious suggestion as to the method actually used but simply his way of expressing the *impossibility* of creating that artifact using nineteenth century technology. It is still a difficult challenge, even with twentieth century technology. And yet we are supposed to believe that Khufu achieved this at a time when the Egyptians possessed only the most basic copper hand tools? Or well before hand tools were even used? Also in Egypt tens of thousands of diorite bowls have been found with hieroglyphs engraved. Diorite is one of the hardest stones on the planet, harder than iron, yet intricate inscriptions have been made, not through the use of chisels or scraping but some unknown ancient technology. Whatever it was, was capable of etching lines 1/150th of an inch wide, often in sets of parallel lines separated by a mere 1/30th of an inch. The same kind of workmanship has been found in vases, urns, and other pottery unearthed at the Pyramid of Zoser. Graham Hancock says: ´There was no technology known to have been available to the Ancient Egyptians capable of achieving such results. Nor, for that matter, would any stone-carver today be able to match them, even if he were working with the best tungsten-carbide tools. The implication, therefore, is that an unknown or secret technology had been put to use in Ancient Egypt.ˇ |
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"Tom" wrote in message ... ...The implication, therefore, is that an unknown or secret technology had been put to use in Ancient Egypt.ˇ The Romans built with granite on the same massive scale that we do. Who helped them? |
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On 10/11/2011 6:58 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message ... ...The implication, therefore, is that an unknown or secret technology had been put to use in Ancient Egypt.ˇ The Romans built with granite on the same massive scale that we do. Who helped them? The ancient Egyptians sold the space aliens to the Romans. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:15:20 -0400, Tom wrote:
Also in Egypt tens of thousands of diorite bowls have been found with hieroglyphs engraved. Diorite is one of the hardest stones on the planet, harder than iron, yet intricate inscriptions have been made, not through the use of chisels or scraping but some unknown ancient technology. Whatever it was, was capable of etching lines 1/150th of an inch wide, often in sets of parallel lines separated by a mere 1/30th of an inch. The same kind of workmanship has been found in vases, urns, and other pottery unearthed at the Pyramid of Zoser. Graham Hancock says: ´There was no technology known to have been available to the Ancient Egyptians capable of achieving such results. Nor, for that matter, would any stone-carver today be able to match them, even if he were working with the best tungsten-carbide tools. The implication, therefore, is that an unknown or secret technology had been put to use in Ancient Egypt.ˇ My concern is over the Black Pyramid and the 12+ underground ones. -- Thor Kuntelin http://www.anta.com/ |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:36:50 -0400, Thor Kuntelin wrote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:15:20 -0400, Tom wrote: Also in Egypt tens of thousands of diorite bowls have been found with hieroglyphs engraved. Diorite is one of the hardest stones on the planet, harder than iron, yet intricate inscriptions have been made, not through the use of chisels or scraping but some unknown ancient technology. Whatever it was, was capable of etching lines 1/150th of an inch wide, often in sets of parallel lines separated by a mere 1/30th of an inch. The same kind of workmanship has been found in vases, urns, and other pottery unearthed at the Pyramid of Zoser. Graham Hancock says: ´There was no technology known to have been available to the Ancient Egyptians capable of achieving such results. Nor, for that matter, would any stone-carver today be able to match them, even if he were working with the best tungsten-carbide tools. The implication, therefore, is that an unknown or secret technology had been put to use in Ancient Egypt.ˇ My concern is over the Black Pyramid and the 12+ underground ones. Twelve up to 17 or more. I question whether we will ever get to see them before they are finished being looted by ???????? including the Atlantean Hall of Records. None of this became an issue until The Geomatrix plan was been cracked by Bill Brown. Evidence from its code is validated by past archaeological activity on the Plateau. It will be furhter validated *if* and when it is discloses where and why unannounced excavations are taking place now. |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:52:36 -0700, Tankfixer wrote:
In article , - Thor Kuntelin spouted ! On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:15:20 -0400, Tom wrote: [quoted text muted] available to the Ancient Egyptians capable of achieving such results. Nor, for that matter, would any stone-carver today be able to match them, even if he were working with the best tungsten-carbide tools. The implication, therefore, is that an unknown or secret technology had been put to use in Ancient Egypt.? My concern is over the Black Pyramid and the 12+ underground ones. I think those are the least of your concerns... Listening... -- Thor Kuntelin http://www.anta.com/ |
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