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Lost comm procedure for Flight Following (more on Honek's posting)
I was on flight following going into Shelter Cove, CA. I was at 6500. I flew VFR as Shelter Cove has no IAP but saw the MEA's were 6700 (IIRC) and according to a FSS briefer, radar coverage up there "sucks." Anyway OAK center was relatively quiet. Granted, I know many times the same guy will work many sectors. Nonetheless after a number of calls with no response I got onto it. Eventually I was passed over to a different sector with a different controller. I called up "Cherokee XXX, 6500." No response. I waited a minute or two. Called again. No response. I waited probably another 3 minutes and called again. After a couple of minutes I the controller gets back to me. I fly for 20 minutes and over the mountains near the shoreline. I call up to cancel flight following before they kick me off and/or lose communications. I call three times with no response. Well a few weeks ago I think it was Jay Honek who landed while on FF since the clouds were pushing him down. When he landed the airport manager said the controller asked him to check on you as they lost him on radar. We discussed the procedures and I did as a number of people recommended. I made a radio call "Last aircraft on frequency, please tell OAK Center Cherokee ABC12 is cancelling flight following. We appear to have lost comm. Again this is Cherokee ABC12" Immediately the controller comes back and cancels FF. I simply did not want to cause another false emergency. On the way back I called up for an IFR clearance and the same thing. I called a few times over many minutes. I then waited probably 10-15 minutes called again, no response, call again and then the controller sounded kind of like "Cherokee XXXXX, I hear you loud and clear. Go ahead with your request." Anyone know what the heck is going on? I felt like I was kind of being rude but my VFR-only co-pilot said I was reasonable. (Jon, I know you just started IFR. I promise the headaches will come. For now learn from the Captain Top Dumb while I also tease you ). Gerald Sylvester PSE |
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He was busy with 'something'... Nothing you can do...
Well, I spoze you could threaten him with changing your squawk to 7700, which will set off bells, and cause a review of the tape by the supervisor... That might get him to answer... OTOH, I suggest what you did was just fine... Announce your intentions clearly so it is understandable on the tape, and then just do it! You are PIC, remember? denny |
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Denny wrote:
He was busy with 'something'... Nothing you can do... Well, I spoze you could threaten him with changing your squawk to 7700, which will set off bells, and cause a review of the tape by the supervisor... That might get him to answer... OTOH, I suggest what you did was just fine... Announce your intentions clearly so it is understandable on the tape, and then just do it! You are PIC, remember? of course. I'm just used to "being on FF" or "NOT being on FF." In other words, if his workload permits giving me traffic advisories then do it. Otherwise kick me off FF. Don't keep the string attached and ignore me. the other plan of action was to just stay on the squawk, land and call FSS or Center. Gerald |
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