New & FREE $100 Hamburger Site

Announcing the new and FREE $100 hamburger site. It is at
http://www.frappr.com/100dollarhamburgers.

I did think about calling it the $95 hamburger map.

Make you post I make no promises to help keep it up to date and clean but
I'll try and if anybody wants to help e-mail me and I'll give you the admin
password.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
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Announcing the new and FREE $100 hamburger site. It is at
http://www.frappr.com/100dollarhamburgers.

I did think about calling it the $95 hamburger map.

Make you post I make no promises to help keep it up to date and clean but
I'll try and if anybody wants to help e-mail me and I'll give you the
admin
password.


To be both more accurate, and avoid legal hassles, you should call it the
$200 dollar hamburger site.

"Tom Conner" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
...
Announcing the new and FREE $100 hamburger site. It is at
http://www.frappr.com/100dollarhamburgers.

I did think about calling it the $95 hamburger map.

Make you post I make no promises to help keep it up to date and clean but
I'll try and if anybody wants to help e-mail me and I'll give you the
admin
password.


To be both more accurate, and avoid legal hassles, you should call it the
$200 dollar hamburger site.



Not worried. I didn't use a $ sign in the title

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:45:45 -0600, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote:


"Tom Conner" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
...
Announcing the new and FREE $100 hamburger site. It is at
http://www.frappr.com/100dollarhamburgers.

I did think about calling it the $95 hamburger map.

Make you post I make no promises to help keep it up to date and clean but
I'll try and if anybody wants to help e-mail me and I'll give you the
admin
password.


To be both more accurate, and avoid legal hassles, you should call it the
$200 dollar hamburger site.



Not worried. I didn't use a $ sign in the title

YMMV, but I wouldn't count on that being enough of a change to satisfy
an IP lawyer's sniff test. It's substantially the same concept, with
yours started specifically in answer to the other one changing it's
pricing scheme, with the intent being to attract the other sites user
base. It would at least be enough to get a court hearing, and it's
much easier to just change it now than go through the expense and
hassle of lawyers later....

The phrase $100 Hamburger goes back LONG before the guy either wrote his
book or started his web site.




"Peter Clark" wrote in message
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:45:45 -0600, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote:


"Tom Conner" wrote in message
link.net...

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
...
Announcing the new and FREE $100 hamburger site. It is at
http://www.frappr.com/100dollarhamburgers.

I did think about calling it the $95 hamburger map.

Make you post I make no promises to help keep it up to date and clean
but
I'll try and if anybody wants to help e-mail me and I'll give you the
admin
password.


To be both more accurate, and avoid legal hassles, you should call it
the
$200 dollar hamburger site.



Not worried. I didn't use a $ sign in the title

YMMV, but I wouldn't count on that being enough of a change to satisfy
an IP lawyer's sniff test. It's substantially the same concept, with
yours started specifically in answer to the other one changing it's
pricing scheme, with the intent being to attract the other sites user
base. It would at least be enough to get a court hearing, and it's
much easier to just change it now than go through the expense and
hassle of lawyers later....

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:08:28 -0500, Peter Clark
wrote in
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To be both more accurate, and avoid legal hassles, you should call it the
$200 dollar hamburger site.


Not worried. I didn't use a $ sign in the title

YMMV, but I wouldn't count on that being enough of a change to satisfy
an IP lawyer's sniff test. It's substantially the same concept,

The name '$100 Hamburger' was in common use long before the Internet.
There's no question that it's in the public domain. Surely that
fellow who published the book isn't arrogant enough to attempt to
hijack that venerable phrase of pilot jargon.

with yours started specifically in answer to the other one changing it's
pricing scheme, with the intent being to attract the other sites user
base.

Isn't the concept of a free airport restaurant PIREP database
manifesting itself in the void left by the absence of the former free
database possibly a result of necessity, rather than any malice. The
only attraction is the common effort to share information with fellow
airmen for the benefit of all.

It would at least be enough to get a court hearing, and it's
much easier to just change it now than go through the expense and
hassle of lawyers later....

That presupposes the old web site's sovereignty over a bit of aviation
vernacular.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message ...
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:08:28 -0500, Peter Clark
wrote in
::


To be both more accurate, and avoid legal hassles, you should call it the
$200 dollar hamburger site.


Not worried. I didn't use a $ sign in the title

YMMV, but I wouldn't count on that being enough of a change to satisfy
an IP lawyer's sniff test. It's substantially the same concept,

The name '$100 Hamburger' was in common use long before the Internet.
There's no question that it's in the public domain. Surely that
fellow who published the book isn't arrogant enough to attempt to
hijack that venerable phrase of pilot jargon.



It seems these days that anyone can create a trademark or copyright a phrase even if it was around long ago. It is not
like a patent...

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
The phrase $100 Hamburger goes back LONG before the guy either wrote his
book or started his web site.

I'm not a lawyer, nor play one on teevee, but I agree with the above and
would testify that I've heard the term used as such, long before someone
placed it on the web... *I* don't figure it as
copyright/tradename-able... 1st one to register it as a domain, gets the
rights to use it, as has been done...

100dollarhamburger.org
100dollarhamburger.net

And probably all the other dot choices (besides .com) seem to be
available...

The name '$100 Hamburger' was in common use long before the Internet.
There's no question that it's in the public domain. Surely that
fellow who published the book isn't arrogant enough to attempt to
hijack that venerable phrase of pilot jargon.



It seems these days that anyone can create a trademark or copyright a
phrase even if it was around long ago. It is not like a patent...

The following information in NOT provided as legal opinion or legal
advice. Go hire an attorney for that. I am a writer and can only relate
information I've gained through experience.
First, no one can "copyright" a phrase. The copyright belongs to the
person that created the art in some substantial form. Only one person can
create the art -- everybody else then copies it at their peril.
A person may register his or her copyright to the art as a form of
establishing ownership. A person may likewise file registration on art to
which they do not own copyright. If a second person can prove they created
the art prior to the registration and thus legally own copyright they can
sue for infringement.
Now, here is an interesting point. If the term "$100 Hamburger" is a
title, it is NOT subject to copyright. That is, a person can NOT register
the title of a piece of work, only the material within. Try this exercise:
go to www.loc.gov [Library of Congress, USA] and do a title search on the
word Images. I suggest you put an operator on the search to limit it to only
material with the single word to avoid listing all the titles that contain
the word -- E.G., Images of History, etc.

So is "$100 Hamburger" a title?

Regards,

Casey Wilson,
Freelance Writer
and Photographer

Casey Wilson wrote on 12/16/05 17:16:

The name '$100 Hamburger' was in common use long before the Internet.
There's no question that it's in the public domain. Surely that
fellow who published the book isn't arrogant enough to attempt to
hijack that venerable phrase of pilot jargon.


It seems these days that anyone can create a trademark or copyright a
phrase even if it was around long ago. It is not like a patent...

The following information in NOT provided as legal opinion or legal
advice. Go hire an attorney for that. I am a writer and can only relate
information I've gained through experience.
First, no one can "copyright" a phrase.


Yes, but it could be a trademark...

A person may register his or her copyright to the art as a form of
establishing ownership.


Actually, copyright protection is automatic, at least in the US, since sometime
in the 70ies. To be able to defend your right, it is very useful to register
your piece of work with the copyright office.

-Joe
(who, as software developer, knows a bit or two about copyright...)